HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-07-27 MINUTESCity of Cottage Grove
Planning Commission
July 27, 2009
A meeting of the Planning Commission was held at Cottage Grove City Hall, 7516 – 80th Street
South, Cottage Grove, Minnesota, on July 27, 2009, in the Council Chambers and telecast on
Local Government Cable Channel 16.
Call to Order
Chair Messick called the Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. He presented
to former Commissioner Reese a plaque expressing appreciation for his years of service on
the Planning Commission.
Roll Call
Members Present: Michael Linse, Steve Messick, Tracy Poncin, Ryan Rambacher,
Jim Rostad, David Thiede
Members Absent: Obid Hofland, Brian Pearson, Chris Willhite
Staff Present: Howard Blin, Community Development Director
John McCool, Senior Planner
John M. Burbank, Senior Planner
Approval of Agenda
Thiede made a motion to approve the agenda. Linse seconded the motion. The motion
was unanimously approved (6-to-0 vote).
Open Forum
Messick asked if anyone wished to address the Planning Commission on any non-agenda
item. No one addressed the Commission.
Chair’s Explanation of the Public Hearing Process
Messick explained the purpose of the Planning Commission, which serves in an advisory ca-
pacity to the City Council, and that the City Council makes all final decisions. In addition, he
explained the process of conducting a public hearing and requested that any person wishing
to speak should come to the microphone and state their full name and address for the public
record.
Planning Commission Minutes
July 27, 2009
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Public Hearings and Application Reviews
6.1 Moss Driveway Setback Variance – Case No. V09-016
Shawn and Shannon Moss have applied for a variance to the required six-foot side yard
setback to allow a driveway to be located one foot from the side property line at 7716
Ingle Court South.
Blin summarized the staff report and recommended denial based on the findings of fact listed
in the staff report.
Linse asked if the shape of the lot could be an unusual circumstance. Blin responded that it
is a wedge-shaped cul-de-sac lot, which is narrower at the front than the back. Linse asked if
there are alternatives to the variance. Blin responded that according to the survey, there is
15.2 feet to the side property line which would allow an approximate 9-foot addition to the
driveway that would meet the current required 6-foot side yard setback.
Rostad asked what type of equipment they would be backing into the proposed garage.
Shawn Moss, 7716 Ingle Court South, responded that snowmobile trailers and possibly a
larger camper. He explained that there is a two-foot overhang off the garage that reduces
access on that side of the property. He stated that he spoke with his neighbors in the cul-de-
sac and they all signed a petition in favor of the variance application.
Rambacher asked if the camper would be parked in the garage instead of the driveway.
Moss stated that he wants his property to be presentable, which is the reason he is building
the larger garage.
Thiede asked about the chain link fence. Moss responded that the fence was put in before
they purchased the home. He indicated the location of the fence on the survey. Thiede then
asked about the neighbor’s tree. Moss stated that he would trim any part of the tree that
overhangs his property line to allow for any clearance issues.
Rambacher asked about keeping the grade consistent with the existing driveway. Moss
stated that would prevent cracking and breaking.
Thiede asked if gravel could be used to extend the driveway closer to the property instead of
concrete. McCool responded that the ordinance does allow for up to two feet of gravel for
landscaping but that part of the gravel cannot be used as part of the driveway.
Linse asked how often Moss would be backing vehicles into the garage. Moss responded
maybe three to four times a year. He is also planning to use it daily to park his personal
vehicles in the detached garage.
Blin stated that this is an unusually shaped lot, it is not rectangular but pie shaped. The other
factor that should be considered is that the house is located further to the east side of the lot
and has a larger than typical setback from the west lot line.
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Linse asked if the property owners on both sides of his property supported the variance
application. Moss responded yes, noting that everyone in the cul-de-sac signed the petition.
Messick opened the public hearing. No one spoke. Messick closed the public hearing.
Linse asked if staff could provide examples of such instances that would demonstrate a
hardship or difficulty. Blin explained the variance process. Linse stated that he would support
this variance based on the seven ordinance criteria listed. He noted that the pie shape of the
lot is a difficulty. Given the frequency that the driveway will be used, he thinks that is a clear
difficulty. He also stated that the majority of the driveway would be two feet from the property
line, which meets the pre-2000 ordinance requirements
Rostad asked why the ordinance was changed to the six-foot setback. McCool responded
that the driveway setback is the same as the setback requirements for accessory structures.
A number of years ago, the Nuisance Ordinance Task Force reviewed the city’s nuisance
ordinances and recommended changing the setbacks due to the number of complaints
received about large vehicles being parked in the side yards of properties, some of which
were as big as a structure.
Poncin stated that she agrees with the previous comments but she is struggling with granting
this variance. The current homeowner is stating that he won’t park a camper on the driveway
but the next homeowner could. She also feels that a foot is too close to adjacent properties
and is not sure that there is really a hardship.
Thiede stated that based on the aerial photo it appears that the neighbor’s house is pretty
tight on the west side of the lot. He asked how far the driveway would be from that house
and what rooms are on that side. Moss responded that he is just asking for the variance for
that front corner of the existing garage where it narrows and behind there it widens out
considerably. The property owner’s living room is in that front corner. Thiede asked if there
was a neighborhood association. Moss responded no.
Messick asked when the home was built. Moss responded in the mid 1970s.
Thiede asked if a condition could be added to prohibit parking on the driveway addition for
an extended period of time. Blin responded yes.
Messick stated that a hardship could be due to when the home was built noting that most of
the new driveway would meet the ordinance requirements from 2000. Another hardship
would be that the house is closer to that right side property line. He stated that there needs
to be a balance between the desire of property owners to use their property while not
reducing the values of their neighbors.
Poncin stated that as far as lot sizes go, newer neighborhoods have smaller lot sizes than
this one. She is worried about setting a precedent. Messick stated that is a valid point but he
thinks the difference for him is that these new developments were built after these
regulations were in place.
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Thiede asked about limiting the area on the driveway where vehicles could be parked. Blin
responded that if that is the intent of the Commission staff can draft that language.
Rostad noted that the proposed driveway would not even meet the pre-2000 setback
requirements and wanted to change the setback to two feet instead of one. He also stated
that one of his concerns is setting precedence. Thiede stated that in consideration of
precedence there are probably other homes in that area that would then have probably a
two-foot setback if they did things prior to 2000 so he supports allowing a two-foot setback.
Moss stated he could work with that.
Thiede made a motion to recommend approval of the variance application with a
revision so that the setback is two feet at its narrowest point and have a restriction
that nothing can be parked in an area ten feet back and ten feet forward for a period
no greater than 24 hours.
Messick asked if Thiede wanted to set the language or direct staff to come up with it. Poncin
asked if that type of condition is enforceable. Blin responded that the variance is recorded
against the property so that presumably the buyer would be aware of that. In terms of
enforcement, it would not be apparent but we could look it up if we get a complaint. There
was discussion about where vehicles could park and it determined that staff should specify
the area that for parking and to establish a time period to allow parking.
Thiede amended his motion to change the minimum variance from one foot to two feet so it
corresponds with the pre-2000 requirements and to allow staff to specify the area that needs
to be free from vehicle parking and establish the minimum time that a vehicle can be in that
area.
Rambacher seconded. Motion passed unanimously (6-to-0 vote).
Discussion Items
7.1 Discussion on Outdoor Wood Burning Facilities Ordinance
McCool summarized his report to the Commission on whether the city codes regarding wood
burning facilities should be amended. He asked for direction from the Commission on
whether or not the city should regulate or prohibit wood burning facilities. Discussion
centered on existing and proposed wood burning facilities in the city, whether there have
been complaints, allowing them in rural residential and agricultural areas on larger lots, what
constitutes a nuisance, mitigating those nuisances, health hazards, and fire hazards. It was
the consensus of the Commission to have staff prepare a draft ordinance on outdoor wood
burning facilities for discussion at the next meeting.
Approval of Planning Commission Minutes of June 1, 2009
Rostad made a motion to approve the minutes of the June 1, 2009, meeting. Motion
seconded by Linse. The motion passed unanimously (6-to-0 vote).
Planning Commission Minutes
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Reports
9.1 Recap of June and July City Council Meetings
Blin reported on City Council actions from their meetings on June 3, June 17, July 1, and
July 15, 2009, noting that the Council approved all the items that the Planning Commission
recomended.
9.2 Response to Planning Commission Inquiries
None.
9.3 Planning Commission Requests
Thiede asked if there was anything new to report on the Home Depot building. Blin
responded no. Thiede asked about vacancy rates in the city. Blin responded that next month
staff will present a report to the Commission, which is being completed for the Economic
Development Authority. He noted that the city is showing a little bit of progress from where
we were a year ago. Messick asked if that report could include vacant residential properties.
Blin responded yes. Linse asked if residents should report vacant homes to the city. Blin
responded to call the city with the address, noting that vacant properties are monitored.
Adjournment
Thiede made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Poncin seconded. Motion passed
unanimously (9-to-0 vote). The meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m.