HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-02-11 MINUTESCity of Cottage Grove
Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission
February 11, 2002
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a regular meeting of the Parks, Recreation, and
Natural Resources Commission was duly held at City Hall, 7516 — 80th Street South,
Cottage Grove, Minnesota, on the 11th day of February, 2002.
Acting Chair Al Boche called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Eddy Wuorenma, Al Boche, Allan Dubois, Tammy Schwartz,
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jon Cheney, Steve Morse
OTHERS PRESENT: Associate Planner John Burbank
Ice Arena /Recreation Manager Zachary Dockter
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as submitted.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to approve minutes by Tammy Schwartz. Seconded by DuBois. Motion Carried.
NEW BUSINESS
A. New Member Discussions
Burbank mentioned that Diane Fredrickson resigned last month. Jon Cheney resigned
effective this month. This leaves two positions open. Boche questioned about having a
youth member sit on the Commission. Burbank indicated that there is room for a youth
member, but it just hasn't been filled in the past years. Suggestions to staff of anyone who
might be interested are invited. Burbank has a couple of applications for the two open
positions. He will call these people and ask them to attend next month's meeting.
B. CGAA CIP Studv
The Commission reviewed the memo from Dockter with dollar amounts. Dockter went on to
explain that the City is looking for some research from the CGAA to support the need for the
Capital Improvements requested. Boche said the CGAA has been informed of this request
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and its presidents and members are doing some research to prove the need for these
improvements. When they are completed they will give the results to staff.
C. CGAA Information Letter
A letter from Kim Lindquist to the CGAA was presented to the Commission. This letter
requests enrollment numbers from each of the CGAA sports to help support fiscal impacts
and needs.
D. Budget Update
Burbank submitted information on the City's budget issues. Burbank stated some of the
effects could be as follows:
Loss of Parks /Public Service Worker
Impacts on Existing Staff
General Monetary and Position Cuts Throughout the City
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DuBois asked about the Parks /Public Service Worker. He wanted to know if it was a new
position or did somebody leave and it's not going to be filled. Burbank responded that it was
to get an additional person according to the budget in 2002 and also the Lead Man in Parks
left in December. So, someone from the existing Parks Department will move up to the
Lead Person leaving a void at the lower position and that position will probably not be filled.
E. Commission Rules
Burbank mentioned that rules could be changed in March when elections take place.
Statute requires that the Commission look at the rules twice before making any changes.
The Commission responded they would review and discuss these rules at the next meeting.
F. Attendance Memorandum — City Clerk
Burbank reviewed the attendance for the past year in relation to the memorandum.
Schwartz asked if any absence without a written note is considered unexcused? Burbank
responded "yes ". Staff will give the Commission quarterly attendance updates.
OLD BUSINESS
A. Update Public River Access — Grey Cloud Island
Burbank updated the Commission on the county meeting that took place at Council Member
Hale's house. Members were Zac Dockter, Les Burshten, John Burbank, Council Member
Rod Hale, a Bonestroo Engineering Consultant, two members from the county and a
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representative from the DNR. The items were discussed. The DNR could provide
engineering aid; possibly coordinate some of this with the FEMA Project. FEMA would not
be paying for it, but the project could be incorporated during the FEMA Project. The park
would be on county land between the iron bridge and the culvert going to St. Paul Park. At
previous meetings it was discussed that they may relocate the roadway. The idea would
cost a minimum of $100,000 so the focus right now is to not worry about relocating the
roadway, but to concentrate more on the park itself. As the park is built they could worry
about relocating the road at a later date. They are still looking at putting in a trail way
connecting all fishing areas, the boat access and picnic areas. The parking lot will be across
the existing road and would be prairie grass, wetlands and surrounded by limestone rocks.
Staff is expecting minimal grading at the sight. The county has shown great interest in
working with the City to use the land for a local park. The issue will be going to the next City
Council meeting for discussion.
Fred Madsen at 10971 Grey Cloud Trail South commented at the meeting that the park
would be directly across the street from his house. Some of his concerns were trash /clean
up in surrounding areas outside of the park; the park would create a lot more traffic on the
island. Along with a lot more traffic, a lot more people could cause a lot more trouble in the
area. He is concerned with who and how the park would be policed. He doesn't think it will
be self - policing at all. He is concerned with how often the park will be cleaned and
questioned if the park would be locked up at night? He feels it will cause a whole bunch of
problems for the island. He would like to know if there would be a public hearing on it that
he and other residents in the area could attend and speak at. Burbank mentioned that the
Council will discuss the park during new business at the next meeting and will decide
whether to hold a public hearing at a later date. Schwartz asked staff to discuss trash
concerns.
Boche responded saying the park should be locked up at some point at night. Burbank
responded that the City had not planned on locking up the park due to unsuccessful
attempts at doing this in the past with the prior location of the boat launch.
Burbank also mentioned that the City would have more enthusiasm to provide and maintain
the park which would assist in the trash clean up. There would be more of a commitment to
the park than in the past at the previous location. Madsen mentioned that he understands
the need for a park and boat access, but if the City is going to do it, it should be built as a
decent facility and should be well maintained. All Commission members agreed. Schwartz
feels if the park is poorly maintained, it will be a poor reflection on the City so all attempts
should be made to properly maintain the park. Burbank said that some screening and
buffering would be included to create a natural atmosphere at the park. The Commission
agrees that there will be a need for more manpower, maintenance and upkeep for the park.
Burbank mentioned that the plans are still preliminary and that the public will be more and
more involved as the park project progresses.
Rod Hale at 11701 Grey Cloud Trail South also spoke. He understands and feels Fred's
concerns are legitimate, being that he lives in the area as well, and they all need to be
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discussed. He feels there is a need for this park and will continue to work hard towards that
end. He explained that this park would be designed for efficient security. He feels the park
needs to be attractive, policeable and minimize any impacts on the natural surroundings.
He continues to suggest the Commission's support for this project. He also feels that
financially many groups will be able to help in getting this park built. For example the DNR,
Aggregate Industries, etc. would possibly be able to help in the funding of this park. He
feels it should be a fairly low cost project with the help of all of these different organizations.
DuBois asked Hale who owned the land on both sides of the landfill. Hale replied that
Hannah may own some, but the rest is all probably county land. Wuorenma asked if Hale
felt adding trashcans and restrooms would assist in the upkeep of the area. Hale responded
"yes, he believes that is a correct assumption ". Schwartz inquired about putting up signs to
discourage vandalism and littering, not just at this park, but also at all parks. Burbank said
he could look into installing these signs.
B. Update Woodridge Baseball Field #43 Naming
Burbank said he is researching what other communities are doing. Some communities
charge to rename the fields so he and Dockter are doing further research before sending it
to Council. Boche requested more information as it progresses.
COMMUNITY CENTER PLANNING WORKSHOP
A. Community Center Scoping Survey #1 - Results
The Commission reviewed the results of the surveys. Some points of interest include the
high scores of the restrooms and the low scores of the clock tower, but Schwartz feels this
should be strongly considered for children waiting for rides and needing to know what time i
is since many children do not wear watches. Also, pool /indoor water park scored extremely
high. Staff will review and decide where to go from here with this information and figure out
what the next step for gathering more information will be.
REPORTS
A. Golf Division
None
B. Ice Arena
Dockter reviewed the submitted memo. Boche asked when the downtime at the arena
would be this year. Dockter responded approximately April 15 through June 15.
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C. Parks Division
Burbank reported for Parks Foreman Greg Niles. They are currently working on hockey
board maintenance and looking to start doing some brush cutting in the near future with the
good weather.
D. Recreation Programming Division
The Commission reviewed the submitted memo. Boche mentioned that the Youth Expo is
coming up. The Expo has been moved to River Oaks and he said it is a good opportunity
for kids to find things to do throughout the summer. DuBois asked what the Adult Safety
Seminar is. Burbank responded that it is a program to provide different safety information
from different organizations to older adults. He indicated more information could be
obtained in the Recreation office or on the City web page.
E. Planning Commission Technical Packet Review
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Burbank reviewed some points of interest from the Planning Commission meeting. Linder's
Greenhouse is coming back. He wanted to let the Commission know that the West Draw
Water Tower Park is going to be looking for some finalization in the designs of the park
coming this spring.
F. Council Agendas
The Commission reviewed the agenda. A point of interest was that Rose of Sharon is still
interested in building a ball field as reported by John Burbank.
G. C.G.A.A.
None
COMMISSION COMMENTS
DuBois discussed his meeting with the Metropolitan Council in St. Paul Park and said it went
very well.
STAFF COMMENTS
Burbank mentioned that the Historic Preservation Committee is looking for a Parks Commission
liaison to attend their meetings since a lot of the topics discussed overlap each other. So, he's
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looking for a volunteer from the Parks Commission to act as that liaison to the Historic
Preservation Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
Wuorenma moved to adjourn. Schwartz seconded it. The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.