HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-05-13 MINUTESCity of Cottage Grove
Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission
May 13, 2002
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a regular meeting of the Parks, Recreation, and
Natural Resources Commission was duly held at City Hall, 7516 — 80th Street South,
Cottage Grove, Minnesota, on the 13th day of May, 2002.
Commission Chair Steve Morse called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Morse, Tammy Schwartz, Eddy Wuorenma, Paul Barthol,
Allan DuBois
MEMBERS ABSENT: Al Boche, Kathleen Kullman
OTHERS PRESENT: Associate Planner John Burbank
Ice Arena/Recreation Manager Zachary Dockter
Council Member Pat Rice
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved as submitted.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the April 8, 2002 meeting approved as mailed.
NEW BUSINESS
A. Park Improvement Funding
John Burbank reviewed the memo submitted by Kim Lindquist to Council involving park
improvements. He mentioned that the Council stated in their 2002 goals that they were
looking to improve park buildings and shelters. In coordination with that, they will be looking
to the Commission for guidelines on which buildings get replaced, repaired or updated.
B. Ideal Park Recreation Equipment
Burbank reviewed the Capital Improvements list in which Ideal Park was scheduled for
replacement of playground equipment in 2003 along with Pine Tree Pond Park. There have
been some major concerns in those neighborhoods that the park is unsafe. Burbank thinks
that it would be possible to get those two parks replaced in 2002. Some funding would
need to be transferred, but it is requested of the Commission that they wait until the budget
discussions wrap up in the next month or so and make sure that it's feasible. Judy Long at
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8249 Ideal stepped up to the podium to discuss her concerns. She said the park has been
there for 30 years since she moved in. The park equipment has deteriorated and it is very
unsafe. The swings are deteriorated and she invited the Commission to come out to the
park and see for themselves to see all the potential dangers. She's concerned that some of
the parks are going on their second set of equipment while this park keeps being
overlooked. She would like the City to get some new equipment and make it a decent park
for kids to play at and to make the area look better. Commissioner Morse asked if the
report that was done by the parks division on the annual maintenance and potential issues
is available to review. This would help them to understand what condition all of our parks
are in and enable them to determine if one should get moved up or not. If not, if there are
five other parks just like Ideal then it makes that task more difficult. So, he requested to see
those reports and get a better feel for what the other parks needs and uses are. Burbank
mentioned that there is an inventory/safety list that is done each year and he will try to get a
hold of that for the Commission, but once again he'd like to have this wait until budget talks
are over. Possibly with additional funding, we may be able to do all of these parks this year
and hold off on next year. Dockter went on to explain that the two parks on the top of the
list for 2002, which are Highlands and Woodridge, are due for replacement because they
are wood structures with pea rock as a base. There are safety concerns with these
locations. Highlands, Woodridge, Ideal and Pine Tree Pond Park are all on the top of the
needs list of our parks. Otherwise it would be very easy to switch them out and do Ideal
Park this year, but there are safety issues with the others as well. Judy Long asked, once
again, who is responsible for the checks and inventories and Burbank responded that it is
the Parks Division. She asked how she could discuss this with the person in charge.
Dockter referred her to the Foreman, but the items will be on next month's agenda so she
may want to just wait and look for him there.
C. Public Park and Open Space Sales Requests
An issue came up where a citizen, John Anderson at 11206 72 Street in Old Cottage
Grove, requested to purchase a strip of land 30'X 165' which is part of Lamar Park. Council
reviewed the memo from John Burbank which recommends the denial of the request. It
has not been the policy of the City to sell any strips of public park and open space in the
past. The reasoning for the request for purchase is that the gentleman has been
maintaining that lot and he feels that the City has not expressed any interest in use of that
property. He would like to build an additional garage on his property and that extra land
would help him to place it in a more appealing spot that he wouldn't be able to do without
that extra land. One of Burbank's concerns is that selling the plot may cause a problem
with a right -of -way if any future development was to happen in that park. John Anderson
wanted to explain that he maintains the lot. The City doesn't want to bring their mowers on
there. He's remodeled and he just wants to get a small piece of that lot to help in his
remodeling process. He did want to make sure that the Commission Members understood
that the map doesn't do it justice. He invites all the Commission Members out there to look
at it and it may change their viewpoint a little bit. The feasibility of the sale is a lot more
attractive if you're actually looking at it as opposed to looking at the map. John Anderson
said he does disagree that he would be blocking a right -of -way with the purchase of that
property. He thinks there still would be plenty of opportunity to get through there. Morse
mentioned that the Commission is not the body who would make that final decision, but
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they are going to discuss it and make a recommendation. Morse personally feels that it is
bad policy to begin selling strips of land because it could get out of hand. So, he believes
that policy should remain that no park or open space land be sold. Schwartz mentioned
that she believes the sale of the land would be okay and that if there were future plans that
a right -of -way would be able to go through that property somehow, but her concern would
be that when that future decision is made that the landowner would say no they don't want
any right -of -ways going through or by their property. Commissioner Barthol asked if there
were any specific examples of requests approved in the past of this. Burbank responded
he's not aware of any requests that were approved, but he does know of many that were
declined in recent years. Commissioner DuBois agreed with the policy to not sell park land,
but he also said he'd like to see the property before making a decision based on the
comment that visual reference would help to get a better feel for the property acquisition
request. Chair Morse asked the Commission Members to at some point visit the land and
take a look at it and we'll revisit the issue next month.
D. Hamlet Park Picnic Shelter Update
Dockter reviewed the memo submitted. He mentioned that a new picnic shelter had been
purchased from St. Croix Recreation Company for the price of about $22,000. This
includes installation, poured footings, concrete slab and installation of the structure. The
structure will be similar in size to the former one that was vandalized, but this one will be a
steel structure. Hopefully, this will alleviate the problems with fire. Burbank also mentioned
that when the shelter is installed, we hope this will be prototype for all of our shelters to
provide unity within our parks. Schwartz mentioned that she would like to see concrete
tables and /or concrete trash barrels to avoid the hazards and vandalism involved with fire
that seem to be reoccurring. Dockter responded that this is definitely a possibility. Price
and maintenance become issues, but it is definitely feasible and it will be researched.
OLD BUSINESS
A. 2002 Commission Goals and Objectives
Burbank reviewed the goals and mentioned that this is the third time it has been on the
agenda. It is now broken down into long and short-term goals as requested by the
Commission. Morse asked for discussion of which there was none and mentioned that it
covers the goals and objectives he thinks were intended and they look good.
Eddy Wuorenma made a motion to accept the 2002 goals as submitted. Seconded by Paul
Barthol. Motion passed.
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B. River Access Park Update
Burbank mentioned that he went to a county meeting in the last month to request the
county land on Grey Cloud Island be used for a park. He thought the presentation went
well and he did get the board's support of the park. Burbank said he also met with the DNR
Grant Programmer and discussed some of the issues at hand and things are looking good
for a DNR grant.
C. Community Center Information
Burbank said that there is a meeting with the Council and the Commission coming up at
which point we would look to the Council for more guidance for where we want to go with
the Community Center. If we want to keep going or if we want to halt it with the financial
concerns of the state and city governments. Until that point we are waiting to meet with the
Council. Burbank asked the Commission to review the submitted articles on private and
public community centers. There is also an attached list of local community centers in which
he invites the Commission members to visit them as they get the opportunity so they are
prepared when they meet with the Council with background information. Morse agreed and
said it would be hard for the Commission as a whole to tour the community centers so he
asked the Commission members to visit as many of the community centers as they can on
their own.
REPOR'M
A. Golf Division
Morse and Wuorenma both stated that they have been to most of the lunch specials listed
in the report and they feel they have been well received and the food is very good. The
report seems to reflect that.
B. Ice Arena Division
Dockter removed the memo submitted and highlighted some points. The five -year contract
with Coke was signed and that marketing support money will be going towards a new sound
system at the Ice Arena. Otherwise it's mostly just maintenance time at the Ice Arena.
C. Parks Division
Dockter reviewed the parks memo and highlighted the area of Woodridge Park. The grass
and field look good and are taking well. There are a lot of community groups coming in to
do maintenance and clean up at the local parks which is nice to see.
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D. Recreation Proaramming Division
Burbank reviewed the staffing positions in the Recreation Department. Jason West is now
the supervisor and Molly Root is the programmer.
Parkside History and Improvements
The comment was made by Morse that it looks like the Parkside Recreation Program is
a very positive thing and he'd hate to see it lost. He had some questions on the grant.
Dockter tried to supply some information on that. The Weed and Seed Program offered
some staffing out there to offer these programs and he would get more information on
the Weed and Seed Grant for the next meeting.
E. Planning Commission
Burbank reviewed the submitted Commission packet and pointed out one particular item
which was the proposed Timber Ridge Third Addition. He wanted to mention with these
new homes the Park Trust Fund will get some additional monies. Typically this is $1,000
per lot. There is no parkland being put in that area, instead they're making payments to the
Park Trust Fund.
F. Council Agendas
No Comments.
G. CGAA
Morse mentioned that he spoke with Boche before the meeting and there were no major
issues to be discussed.
H. Historic Preservation
No Comments
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Allan DuBois asked if we ever got lights at the Hamlet Park skateboard park. Burbank
responded that has not been done as of yet.
Allan also asked if Belden Park should be on the Capital Improvements list. He realized it had
been replaced not too long ago, but he was wondering if it would be on there in the future.
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Morse mentioned that he saw in the Bulletin that the equipment at Cottage Grove Ravine Park
was being replaced. That was a concern of his and he was happy to see it get done.
STAFF COMMENTS
Burbank told the Commission to be aware that next meeting there will be a request from the
School District for easement routes by Hamlet Park. At which point the Commission will be
taking action and making recommendation to City Council.
.ADJOURNMENT
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Schwartz moved to adjourn. DuBois seconded it. The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.