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Planning Commission
June 26, 2006
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a regular meeting of the Planning Commission was duly
held at City Hall, 7516 — 80th Street South, Cottage Grove, Minnesota on the 26th day of June,
2006, in the Council Chambers and teiecast on local Government Cable Channel 16.
Call to Order
Chairperson Brittain called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Roll Call
Members Present: Shane Bauer, Ken Brittain, Jason Cavallo, Tina Folch-Freiermuth,
Rod Hale, Rebecca Kronlund, Tracy Poncin, Chris Reese, David Thiede
Staff Present: Howard Biin, Communiry Development Director
John McCool, Senior Planner
Ben Pierson, Planning Intern
David Boguslawski, Planning Intern
Mark Grossklaus, City Councii Liaison
Approval of Agenda
Brittain announced that the Core Development Concept Plan and the Stewart Dog Kennel
agenda items will be continued to the July meeting.
Motion by Hale, second by Reese, to approve the agenda. Motion approved unanimously
(9-0 vote).
Open Forum
Chairperson Brittain asked if anyone wished to address the Planning Commission on any non-
agenda item. No one appeared to address the Commission.
Chair's Explanation of the Public Hearing Process
Chairperson Brittain explained the purpose of the Planning Commission, which serves in an ad-
visory capacity to the City Council, and the City Council makes all final decisions. In addition, he
explained the process of conducting a public hearing and requested that any person wishing to
speak should come to the microphone and state their full name and address for the public
record.
Public Hearings and Application Reviews
6.1 Yeshiva School — Cases ZA06-029 and CUP06-030
Yeshiva Congregation of the Twin Cities has applied for a zoning text amendment to City
Code Title 11-9D-4, Conditional Uses, to allow for dormitories as accessory uses to public,
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private, and parochial schools with accommodations for up to 75 persons residing on the
site provided that no buildings be located within 50 feet of any lot line. They have also ap-
plied for a conditional use permit for a parochial school with dormitory at 8944 Indahl Avenue
South.
Blin summarized the staff report and recommended approval subject to the conditions stipulated
in the staff report.
Chaim Friedman, 2265 Edgecumbe Road, St. Paul, is the rabbi and principal of Yeshiva. He ex-
plained how the school operates, noting that it is a religious Jewish high school with general
studies and a rigorous curriculum of Jewish studies. Classes begin at 7:30 a.m. and end at 8:45
p.m. with breaks for meals and sports. The kids won't have access to vehicles, only staff wiil
drive. Staff to student ratio will be three students per supervising staff member. The students will
range in age from 14 through 17.
Thiede asked if the students would all be residents at the school. Friedman responded yes,
noting that most of the students would be from around the country. They are pianning to have 30
students when they first open the school.
Cavallo asked about the self-contained activities on the grounds, he does not see any basketball
courts or tennis courts and do they plan to construct anything. Friedman stated that they are not
pianning to build anything initially, but there is portable hoop and a temporary volleyball net.
Hale asked if they would be functioning year round. Friedman responded that the school year
runs September to June and the summer program will be held either here or elsewhere.
Reese asked if there would be more Iandscaping done to the site and what type of vehicles they
would be using to transport the students. Friedman responded that they have a 15-passenger
van. Reese asked what their projections are for future enrollment. Friedman responded that they
are planning to keep the school small.
Cavallo asked if the school wanted to increase their numbers to 75 in the dormitory, wouid they
need a variance to add onto the school. Blin responded that there is space to add onto the
building, but they would need a conditional use permit amendment. Blin clarified that the staff re-
port notes that the dormitory has a capacity of no more than 50 students but it shouid say no
more than 50 people, which include students and staff.
Hale asked if the 75 students mentioned in the staff report was for all school dormitories or just
for this application. Blin responded that it would apply to ali schools with dormitories that may lo-
cate in the city. Haie asked if the building as currently constructed could oniy accommodate 31
students. Blin responded that aiong with zoning requirements there are building code require-
ments for these kinds of uses. He stated that with relatively few modifications, 31 people could
be housed in the existing structure. Prior to housing the maximum of 50 residents, they would
need to make modifications and receive a occupancy certificate from the city.
Moshe Wiese, President of the Board of Yeshiva High Schooi, 1792 Saunders Avenue, St. Paul,
stated that originally when they submitted the application, they specified on the floor plan were
sleeping rooms would be located after going through the building with the building official and fire
marshal. They were not aware of the 50 square foot per person requirement at that time and af-
ter further discussion with city staff, they would have revised their floor plans, but there is other
space in the building that could be occupied as sleeping rooms and fit residents within the stan-
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dards. Hale stated that he wants to ensure that what is approved for number of residents is in
agreement with the number allowed by the building code.
Cavallo asked about the public hearing notification process. Biin explained thaf process. He also
reported the Yeshiva School sent out invitations and heid a neighborhood meeting two weeks
ago, which three neighbors attended.
Thiede noted that they currentiy have a school with 40 students and asked why they were Ieav-
ing that site. Wiese responded that that site was needed for other purposes and they are looking
for a site that would be permanent and that they would own. Thiede asked if there were other
boarding schools in Cottage Grove. Blin replied no.
Bauer asked if the zoning text amendment was changed to 75 persons per site, if another group
wanted to open a school with dormitory would they still need a conditional use permit. Blin re-
sponded any application for a school would need to come before the Planning Commission and
City Council for a public hearing on a conditionai use permit. Bauer expressed concern about a
large number of people in a residentiai area on a daily basis. Blin responded that schoois are aI-
lowed in residential zoning districts.
Reese noted that the school would be located adjacent to a commercial district and there is an-
other school in the area that has bus traffic every day. Bauer stated that he does not believe that
traffic would be an issue for this particular school, but he is concerned about allowing these uses
in other residential areas. Cavallo agreed with Bauer, suggesting that these uses be limited to
areas that are Iess developed or closer to commercial where there are fewer homes.
Brittain opened the public hearing.
Morris Frankel, 3612 Fillmore Street, Minneapoiis, stated that
chase of the property and that this is a good location for their
impact to the area around the property from this use. He gave
the applicants.
No one else spoke. Brittain closed the public hearing,
he has been involved in the pur-
school. He does not see a lot of
references as to the characters of
Hale asked for clarification on the limitation to 75 in the ordinance amendment. Blin responded
that the limitation is to limit the number of residents in a dormitory to 75, but not the number of
students or staff at the school. Hale stated that the current facility can accommodate 31 resi-
dents and he wants to ensure that they understand that if they want to have 50 residents, the
building is prepared for 50 residents prior to the time they are approve to the 31 students.
Hale made a motion to approve the appiication subject to the conditions listed below with
a change in the wording to residents in the ordinance. Cavallo seconded.
1. A!I applicable permits (i.e., building, electrical, grading, mechanical) and a commercia!
p/an review packet must Be completed, submitted, and approved by the City prior fo
the commencement of any construction activities. Detailed construction plans must be
reviewed and approved by the Building O�cial and Fire Marshal.
2. Any exterior construction alterations, materials changes or colors modifications be re-
viewed and approved by the Planning DepaKment prior to the issuance of a building
permif.
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3. Prior fo the issuance of a building permit, fhe applicant must submit a comprehensive
sign package to the City for review and approval.
4. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicanf must suBmit a comprehensive
lighting package. All outdoor lighting must Be direcfed downward and away from resi-
dential properEy and public streets, and must not exceed one footcandle at the prop-
erty lines adjacent to commercial, and a half footcandle adjacent to residential.
5. The /andscaping plan must be revised to address the items idenfified in the staff re-
port. Said plan must be reviewed and approved by the Planning Department prior to
fhe issuance of a building permit.
6. A bona fide cosf estimate of the fandscaping improvements must be submitted in con-
junction with a letter of credit approved by the City in the amount of 150 percent of
such estimate. Upon completion of the landscaping requirements, the applicant must
in wrifing inform the Cify that said improvements have been completed. The City must
retain the financiai guarantee for a period of one year from the date of notice to insure
the survival of the plantings, and until the as-built utility survey has been submifted.
No building permit will be issued until the required financial guarantee has been
received and accepted by the City.
7. Outdoor speaker sysfems (e.g. paging, intercom, etc.) are prohibited.
Motion passed unanimously (9-to-0 vote).
6.2 Gallas Addition — Case V06-034
Allen Gallas has applied for a variance to City Code Title 11-9D-5A, Development Standards
in the R-3, Single Family Residential District, to allow construction of an addition 10 feet from
the rear property line at 8841 Upper 89th Street Circle South, when 35 feet is required.
McCool summarized the staff report and recommended approval subject to the conditions listed
in the staff report.
Alan Gailas, 8841 — 89th Street Circie South, pointed out a cement patio on the aeriai photo,
noting that the addition
Iot is very constricted, t
is on a diagonal.
would go eight feet beyond the edge of the patio. He reiterated that his
ie house is set as far forward as allowed by zoning, and the rear Iot line
Thiede asked what would be in the addition. Gallas responded that they are adding a family
room and one bedroom, bringing the laundry upstairs, and extending the garage. He stated that
the addition would be one-story with a crawl space. Thiede asked if Gallas had talked with his
neighbors. Gailas responded that he has talked with most of his neighbors, and they have no
objections to his proposal.
Reese asked if the house currently meets the setback requirements. McCool responded that
when the house was built in the early 1980s, the city averaged the rear yard setbacks.
Poncin asked if the yard is fenced. Gallas responded that they have a chain iink fence.
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Cavallo asked which neighbors Gallas spoke with. Gallas stated that he talked with the
neighbors at 8839, 8856, 8860, and 8862, and none have any objections.
Brittain noteai that the applican� s lot line abuts the rear yards of the surrounding properties.
Reese noted thatthere are two large trees at 8860 — 89th Street Circle and asked what the height
of the structure would be. Gallas responded that the maximum height at the peak would be 16
feet and the trees in that yard are at least 10 feet high, so the neighbor would probably be abie to
see the top of the new structure.
Bauer asked how far the houses at 8860 and 8862 are from the rear property lines. McCool re-
sponded approximateiy 45 feet. Gallas stated that from his proposed addition would 80 feet from
both 8860 and 8856 and to 8862 it would 110 feet.
Brittain opened the public hearing.
Tom Pagel, 9271 — 73rd Street South, stated that he owns the property at 8860 — 89th Street
Circle, and his mother lives in that home. He stated that his mother did not understand the pro-
posal. Being the owner of the property, he does not like the proposed addition. He stated that
this is not a small encroachment, but if the garage was not added, he would not object to the
proposal because it would meet ordinance criteria.
Thiede asked if Pagel foresees any negative impact on his property. Pagel responded that he
does foresee that this could cause a probiem when they try to sell the home in future, noting that
his wife is a realtor and he used to be a real estate agent. The addition wili block the view from
the deck, which is now all open space.
No one else spoke. Brittain closed the public hearing.
Foich asked if adding onto the garage was a convenience or is there a burden that Gallas has
that would be alieviated by the garage addition. Gallas responded that he wants to expand his
home and garage to accommodate a growing family.
Thiede noted that the garage could be widened to within five feet of the side property Iine.
McCool responded that due to a six-foot drainage and utility easement on the property, the clos-
est they could go wouid be six feet from the lot Iine. Thiede asked how the rear lot Iine was de-
termined for this property. Blin responded that this Iot effectively has one front and three side
property lines and because the rear lot line is typically the opposite of the front lot line. He noted
that most of these lots with angied lot lines have a narrow rear lot line, which if that existed, the
angled side wouid then be considered the side lot line.
Thiede asked Pagel if there would be anything the applicant could do to make the addition more
desirable to the neighboring properties. Pagel responded he has no objection to an addition to
the living space addition as long as it meets the city's requirements, but the garage addition is
too ciose to the property line. Ne stated that he does not believe that these types of variances
should be granted. Thiede noted that there could be an addition to the side of the property line
without need for a variance.
Bauer agreed with Thiede that there is room to build onto the garage at the side of the house
and a living space addition could be added to the back of the house without affecting the
neighbors. Cavallo agreed. Hale noted that even with a side garage addition, a variance would
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still be needed to the rear setback. Bauer does not believe that there is a hardship and cannot
support this application. Reese asked if a variance would be needed if only living space was
added. McCool responded yes, as currently proposed. Cavallo stated he could agree to a vari-
ance for the living space but not the garage. Poncin aiso agreed.
Thiede made a mofion to deny fhe appiication. Folch seconded.
Motion passed on an 8-to-1 vote (Reese).
Reese stated that what the Commission has suggested, a garage addition on the side and living
space on the back, would make the house look very segmented, which is less desirabie than the
more fluid structure the applicant proposed. He stated that whether or not the City Council ap-
proves the application, a variance will be needed for any addition to this house, and he feels that
this is the better looking option.
Cavallo stated that this was a hard decision for him. He does feel that the only variance that
should be granted would be for the living space. He thinks that we should try to minimize the im-
pact on the neighbors.
6.3 Bredeson Deck — Case V06-036
Gary and Tamra Bredeson, 6385 Goodview Bay South, have applied for a variance to City
Code Title 11-9B-5, Development Standards in the R-2, Residential Estate District, to allow a
deck to be setback 15 feet from the side property line when 20 feet is required.
Pierson summarized the staff report and recommended approvai subject to the conditions stipu-
lated in the staff report.
Gary Bredeson, 6385 Goodview Bay South, stated the 22-foot deck ledger board was included
as part of the home's design. Due to the terrain on the property, the house site had to be ad-
justed. He stated that there are trees and a six-foot high privacy fence along that side property
line. He has spoken with the neighbors about the deck and they have no objections.
Poncin asked if the spruce tree needs to be removed. Bredeson responded no.
Brittain asked if anyone in the audience wanted to comment on the application, noting that the
pubiic hearing is scheduled before the City Council on July 5. No one spoke.
Thiede made a motion to approve the variance based on the findings of fact in the sfaff
reporf and subject fo the condition listed below, Hale seconded.
1. The property owner obtains a building permit from the city.
Motion passed unanimously (9-to-0 vote).
6.4 Ideal Acres — Cases PPO6-031 and V06-032
Dick Braun has applied for a preliminary plat for ldeai Acres, which wouid consist of four
single-family lots located on the west side of Ideal Avenue between 110th Street and 113th
Street, and a variance to City Code Title 11-15-8B, Density Requirements in the Mississippi
River Corridor Critical Area Overlay District.
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McCool summarized the staff report and recommended denial based on the findings of fact listed
in the staff report.
Dick Braun, 2471 Angell Road, Sunfish Lake, stated that he would answer questions from the
Commission.
Thiede stated that the other lots in the area are iong and narrow and asked why this proposal
does not look similar to the other properties in the area. Braun responded that squared lots are
more desirabie than long, narrow lots.
Cavailo asked if Exhibit B is proposed for the future. McCool responded that Exhibit B is a ghost
plat and identifies how future re-subdividing could look if sewer and water were provided to that
area. Cavailo asked if the city's goal is to see the Mississippi River Overlay District stay the
same. McCool responded that as part of the Comprehensive Plan, this area has been identified
as a transition zone, transitioning from agricultural and acreage lots to urban densities for low
density residential use that wouid be served with city sewer and water.
Hale asked what the acreage of the property on the northeast corner of the property was.
McCool responded three-quarters of an acre. Hale stated that this development does not meet
the city's deveiopment forecast, and he would hate to use the river corridor criteria as a reason
for denial because the city has aiready exceeded the four per forty restriction. He noted that if
the appiicant subdivided the property to meet the R-1 zoning standards, the city couid not deny
the application. McCool stated that the property is currently zoned R-3, but the minimum lot size
is 1.5 acres for properties without city services.
Cavallo asked if the application could be denied if the proposal consisted of 1.5-acre lots and a
road to the west with no access to Ideal. McCool responded that it would still require a variance
to the overlay district density and Iot size requirements.
Brittain opened the public hearing.
Laneile Fox, 2349 Horseshoe Lake Road, Cushing, Wisconsin, stated that her mother currently
owns the property and she wants to sell it to her brother. She stated that she does not want the
city to do away with the minimum for the river corridor. They have to look at resale value for it
and how the increased density affects potential buyers.
Gabe Schoer, 8223 Indian Boulevard Court, stated that he grew up in that area and found out
about the proposai when he started making plans to buy his mother's property to remodel it. Ne
is pleased with the proposed plan rather than the city's plan. it fits the rural neighborhood more.
He does not believe that there are a Iot of traffic issues in that area and with the driveways com-
ing onto the road, all that would need to be done is to lower the speed limit. He supports the pro-
posed subdivision.
No one else spoke. Brittain closed the public hearing.
Thiede agreed with Hale that subdividing that parcel into four lots is no worse than what is in that
area currently. He would Iike to see consistency in terms of lot size and dimensions as currently
exists. He asked about the ghost piat. Blin responded that is what could be done to subdivide
this lot in the future if city services were extended to the area. Kronlund asked what the timeline
for that extension would be. Blin stated more than 15 to 20 years for the extension of utilities.
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Brittain stated that Ideal Avenue is slated as a collector street in the future and he does not want
to see additional driveway accesses onto roads that are meant to serve higher traffic volumes in
the future. Ne also nofied 4ha4 mest of the lots in fhe are� are approximately 2.5 acres in size and
in order to keep consistency for that area, there would have to be access from 110th or 113th
Street with similar lots sizes to the existing lots in the area.
Reese asked with the four lots that are 300 feet deep, is it possibie to put a service road behind
the properties that wouid have a single access onto Ideal Avenue. He also asked if a road be-
hind the proposed lots would affect the adjoining properties. Braun stated that they could have
Lot 1 access onto 110th Street, and Lots 2 and 3 could be serviced by one access onto Ideal
Avenue so they would only be adding one access to Ideal Avenue.
Brittain made a motion fo deny the application based on the long-range plans and access
points onto Ideal, consisfenf with fhe recommendations from city statf, listed below.
Poncin seconded.
1. The proposed preliminary plat creates four parcels thaf are /ess than three acres per
parcel as required in fhe Mississippi River Critical Corridor Overlay Disfrict.
2. The proposed preliminary plat is inconsisfent with the long-term planning for the area
as defined in the City's Comprehensive Plan 2020, which shows this area urbanizing in
the future.
3. Acreages smaller than 2.5 acres may resfricf the ability to provide city utilities in the
future because rural development patterns would exisf.
4. Past city approval for lot splits in this vicinity supporfed a 2.5-acre minimum lot area
whereby such acreage generally has fhe effect of supporting some of the Critical Area
standards in preserving open space and rura! character.
5. Existing rural esfate lots in fhis vicinity are generalty 2.5 acres or larger.
Motion to deny the applicafion passed on a 6-to-3 vote (Cavallo, Reese, Thiede).
Cavallo stated that after the developer proposed moving the access points and hearing the
neighboring property owners acceptance of the proposal, he believes that this fits in more with
the existing neighborhood than the ghost plat. Thiede explained that the proposal is somewhat
consistent with the existing neighborhood and there will not be much traffic added to Ideal, and
with regard to future development, if this gets sold into four different parcels and a developer
comes in the future, it probably would not end up like the ghost plat. He stated that the ghost plat
clouded the picture and he feels that what they are proposing with the four lots is okay. Reese
agreed Thiede. He also noted that the developer is willing to work with the city on the access
points. He believes the city needs to take a hard look at the quarter-quarter density require-
ments.
6.5 Resubmittal of Applications — Case TA06-033
The City of Cottage Grove has applied for an amendment to City Code Titles 10-1-8A and 11-
12-12A, Resubmittal of Applications, which would set a time frame for resubmitting planning
applications.
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Blin summarized the staff report and recommended approval.
Hale asked if this does not prohibit the Council �rom extending an application beyond the dead-
line. Blin responded that was correct, expiaining that the appiicant would have to make a formal
application for that extension.
Brittain opened the puBlic hearing. No one spoke. Brittain closed the public hearing.
Hale made a motion to approve the app/ication subject to the conditions listed below.
Reese seconded. Motion passed unanimously (9-to-0 vofe).
6.6 Core Development Concept Plan — South Point Ridge
Brittain reported that this concept plan review was continued to a later date.
Approval of Planning Commission Minutes of May 22, 2006
Motion by Cavallo, seconded by Folch, to approve the minutes from the Planning Com-
mission meeting on May 22, 2006. Mofion passed unanimous/y (9-to-O).
Reports
9.1 Recap of June City Council Meetings
Blin reviewed the items discussed by the City Council at their meetings in June 2006.
9.2 Committee Reports
None.
9.3 Response to Planning Commission Inquiries
Biin stated that a copy of the West Draw Task Force Report was sent to ali the Planning Com-
missioners. He noted that there have been significant policy changes since that document was
prepared. At the time the report was done, it was envisioned that fairly large pieces of that West
Draw area would remain rural residential with no utility extensions into those areas. The land-
owners in that area requested that their properties be rezoned to an urban density and utilities be
extended. Blin then reported that in regard to possible assessments for the 65th Street and
Hadley Avenue area, the city has heid meetings with the property owners in that area, and if
utilities are put into Hadley that couid require the reconstruction of Hadley. The direction from
Council is that if Hadley was to be reconstructed, it should remain in the character it has today
with some improvements. City staff and a landscape architect will look at the road to see if there
are ways to enhance the iook of it while keeping the roll and the wooded areas tight to the road.
He explained that at the time the Pine Cliff entrance sign was approved, it did conform with the
city's sign code, but since the new East Ravine standards were adopted, the amount of sign face
was reduced to 30 square feet. He also reported that a water plan was presented to the City
Councii about a month ago and that would be a good document for the Commission to review at
a future meeting.
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9.4 Planning Commission Requests
Cavallo asked about the Pubiic Safety discussion on sidewalk widths. Biin responded that there
should be a ffnai defermination by the Pubiic Safie4y Commission next month. The proposai be-
fore the Commission is five feet. Hale commented on the Ideai Acres plat application, noting that
there was some confusion regarding the ghost piat. He explained that in areas without city ser-
vices, the city asks the applicant to plan for the addition of services even though that may never
materialize or that plan may not be one the city accepts. Brittain notted that the pine trees on the
new part of Hinton Avenue past the model home appear to be too close to the traii. McCool re-
sponded that the city met with the County regarding the placement of those trees and they
accepted the location.
Adjournment
Motion by Thiede, seconded by Reese, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimous/y (9-to-0),
The meeting adjourned at 9:23 p.m.