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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-08-17 MINUTESPUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING August 17, 2004 Pursuant to due notice, a meeting of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was held at the City Hall Council Chambers and was telecast on local Government Cable Channel 12. CALL TO ORDER: The August 17, 2004 meeting of the Cottage Grove Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT: STAFFPRESENT: Kyle Lindquist, Dave Wick, Kris Meinert, Jennifer Osborne, Karla Bigham, Brian Hagen Jeff Rothecker Sergeant Brian Wilson, Lieutenant Pat Horst — Fire, City Engineer Jennifer Levitt Approval of minutes: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the July 20, 2004 minutes for review. On a motion by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, seconded by Commission member Jennifer Osborne, the minutes were approved as submitted. Motion carried. Approval of aqenda: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the August 17, 2004 agenda of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission for review. On a motion by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, seconded by Commission member Brian Hagen, the August 17, 2004 agenda was accepted and approved by the Commission. Motion carried. OPENFORUM Chairperson Bigham invited citizens present to address the Commission regarding any matters that were not on the approved agenda. There being no presentations, Chairperson Bigham closed the Open Forum segment of the meeting. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT The Commission was provided a copy of the cases for the August 23, 2004 Planning Commission meeting for review and comment. There being no discussion regarding the Planning Commission cases, this portion of the meeting was closed. Page 2 PSHWC Meeting Minutes August 17, 2004 OLD BUSINESS Case 04-05-03 Thompson Grove Neighborhood Traffic Control Analysis City Engineer Jennifer Levitt provided the Commission with a packet that included background, Council Workshop comments, Public Works comments and recommendations to begin the implementation of educating the public as soon as possible regarding the proposed changes. A neighborhood meeting has been scheduled for August 26� at All Saints Church, to begin at 7 p.m. After general discussion, the Commission, on a motion by Kris Meinert, seconded by Dave Wick, approved the recommended traffic control changes as submitted and outlined in Figure 4 of the Thompson Grove Traffic Control Analysis. Motion carried. 1 opposed. NEW BUSINESS Case 04-08-01 Approve special permit to hunt — Robert Juckel property, 8451 110' Street So. Captain Woolery provided the Commission with a memo recommending the approval of bow hunting only on the Juckel property during the 2004 season. He noted that there were no hunting related complaints for the Juckel property during the 2003 season. On a motion by Dave Wick, seconded by Kyle Lindquist, the request to issue a special permit to hunt deer on the Robert Juckel property at 8451110� Street South be approved for bow hunting only during the 2004 season. Motion carried. RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS None at this time. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS 1) Chairperson Karla Bigham wished to comment on National Night Out and felt it was a great success and had great turn out. She wanted to thank those who were involved in its success. 2) Chairperson Karla Bi�qham inquired as to whether the street lights along Hinton between 65� and 70� Streets, will be working in the future. She would hope soon as it is very dark along this stretch of the roadway. Sgt. Brian Wilson advised her that he will check into to this. Page 3 PSHWC Meeting Minutes August 17, 2004 3) Chairperson Karla Bigham inquired that due to the increased meth related arrests, if there is a budgeted item to have a K-9 drug dog. She asked what the expense might be. Sgt. Wilson said he would try to get that information. STAFF REPORTS POLICE - Sergeant Wilson advised the Commission that a conditional job offer was given to a Public Safety Dispatcher candidate. FIRE - Lt. Horst informed the Commission that the Fire Utility trucks are housed at Station 4. COUNCIL- Council Person Kohls provided the Commission with a copy of the General Fund Expenditure Budget Summary by Department for 2005. She asked that the Commission review it and provide any comments and/or input to her to take with to future Budget meetings to help reduce the $408,724 deficit. Council Person Kohls informed the Commission that she would still like to have a workshop session to discuss future communication issues for the city. She mentioned the Communications Center within the Public Safety Department as having old, outdated equipment and the future of the 800 MHz system within the metro area and how much money will be needed to update the facility and equipment and will help provide knowledge to the Commission for long term plans. She hopes that Captain Woolery will have this workshop scheduled in the near future and provide a brief history at the workshop on future communications issues within the city. ADJOURN Motion by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, seconded by Commission member Brian Hagen to adjourn the meeting at 7:45 p.m. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Cyndee Engfer—Administrative Secretary PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING September 21, 2004 Pursuant to due notice, a meeting of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was held at the City Hall Council Chambers and was telecast on local Government Cable Channel 12. CALL TO ORDER: The September 21, 2004 meeting of the Cottage Grove Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT STAFFPRESENT Kyle Lindquist, Kris Meinert, Karla Bigham, Brian Hagen, Jeff Rothecker Jennifer Osborne, Dave Wick Captain Craig Woolery, Captain Randy Gerlach — Fire, Community Development Director Howard Blin Approval of minutes: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the August 17, 2004 minutes for review. On a motion by Commission member Jeff Rothecker, seconded by Commission member Brian Hagen, the minutes were approved as submitted. Motion carried. Approval of aqenda: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the September 21, 2004 agenda of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission for review. On a motion by Commission member Jeff Rothecker, seconded by Commission member Kris Meinert, the September 21, 2004 agenda was accepted and approved by the Commission. Motion carried. OPEN FORUM Chairperson Bigham invited citizens present to address the Commission regarding any matters that were not on the approved agenda. A number of residents came forward and gave comment regarding their concerns over the Thompson Grove traffic study. 24 comment forms were submitted to the Public Safety Commission. The following persons came forward at the Open Forum session and spoke: Michael Brach — resides near 87 and Hale Mr. Brach presented the petitions and commented that many Grove side residents were upset that the comment cards were not sent out via mass mailing and felt everyone was for the 4 way stop control at 85` and Hadley. Page 2 PSHWC Meeting Minutes September 21, 2004 Larry Uecker — lives on the corner of 85' and Grenadier Mr. Uecker agreed with Mr. Brach's comments about the 4 way stop at 85� He also felt that a 4 way stop would be appropriate at 85` and Grenadier and did not wish that 85c Street be a through street. Joyce Simons — resides near 89` and Hale Ms. Simons spoke against the removal of the stop signs at 89� and Hale. Stated that due to children approaching the park, a 4 way stop is needed. Ms. Simons also commented that mailings and notifications would be more appropriate than articles in the newspaper for better resident turnout. Ed Haufman — lives at 8781 Hale Court Mr. Haufman commented that the stop signs in place are not currently being obeyed and likes the use of the police departmenYs speed car displaying traffic speeds. Dick Gruser — lives at 8511 Grenadier Mr. Gruser felt that 85`" and Grenadier should be controlled with a 4 way stop. Public Safety Commission Chair Karla Bigham also requested that further comment from the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission should also be sought. The Commission made no motions or direction other than taking public comment during the Open Forum, and understood that this is still an ongoing public process. There being no additional presentations, Chairperson Bigham closed the Open Forum segment of the meeting. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT East Ravine Development plan - Community Development Director Howard Blin gave a brief overview of the preliminary East Ravine project plan. He provided the Commission with a colored development plan which outlined possible development, to include commercial, low, medium and high density housing, park use, governmental site and trail systems. The plan he gave is for a 20-30 year outlook and doesn't foresee anything being developed for at least 5 years or longer. The Commission thanked him for his presentation and requested that they be kept apprised of plans as they change. The Commission was provided a copy of the cases for the September 21, 2004 Planning Commission meeting for review and comment. Page 3 PSHWC Meeting Minutes September 21, 2004 Presbyterian Homes Housing and Assisted Living, Inc. The Commission was presented with a copy of the Staff Report from Planning. The only comments from the Commission was if there would be a strain on public safety services, ie. Police, EMS, Fire. Howard Blin said he would provide stats from other assisted living complexes as they become available. Summerhill Crossing Howard Blin advised that the gas station plan has been moved to the northeast corner of the development from the southwest corner. Concerns from the Commission included truck access for the retail businesses, handicap parking, noise from the gas station car wash and lighting. Commission member Meinert asked about outdoor sales, ie. Cub scout hot dog sales on property. Howard Blin stated that something could be written in as to exceptions to non- profit groups. There being no additional discussion regarding the Planning Commission cases, this portion of the meeting was closed. OLD BUSINESS Case 04-03-02 Discuss proposed changes to Hunting Ordinance Captain Woolery provided the Commission with a memo and map regarding proposed changes to Cottage Grove's hunting ordinance. He did provide the Commission with the following. The current Cottage Grove ordinance regulates deer hunting based on current zoning application and acreage minimums. This current language has created some discrepancies on where individuals may or may not hunt. For example, an apple orchard owner in Cottage Grove, who resides on 18 acres and the area zoned R3, is not allowed to archery or firearms hunt. The current ordinance requires that archery hunting have an Ag 1, Ag 2 or R1 designation with a minimum of 10 contiguous acres. The apple orchard owner had support from the MN DNR as well as wildlife officials regarding depredation to his crops and economic losses due to the depredation. Captain Woolery stated he would propose that the hunting language be changed to reflect a 5 acre minimum. Archery hunting would not be allowed within 300 feet of the MUSA boundary (Metropolitan Urban Service Area), any public park land or trail or any public right of way. This proposal was supported by local conversation officers as an effective means to address deer populations with minimal impact to surrounding areas. Page 4 PSHWC Meeting Minutes September 21, 2004 He also will include supporting documentation from the Minnesota DNR as well as the proposed changes to the archery hunting maps. In regards to firearms hunting, there is one section that remains by ordinance language that would still allow hunting with firearms. This is in the extreme northwest corner of the city, known as Section 6. This area has recently been developed with the Highland Hills residential development. The language in Section 5-3-6, subd. (1), should be changed to remove firearm hunting lying west of Keats Avenue and south and west of Hwy. 61 and continue to keep the 40 acre minimum for discharge of firearms. In comparison to other suburban cities, Cottage Grove is unique in it designation and use of the zoning designations for hunting. For example, Burnsville, Woodbury, Maple Grove and Orono are suburban cities that allow archery and shotgun hunting. Inver Grove Heights allows archery only, no acre minimum and 100 yards from any residential or commercial structure. Generally, it appears that most cities will modify their areas to allow hunting in respect to development. The City of Orono requires a 5 acre minimum for hunting with archery. However, an applicant can obtain permission from two property owners that have a minimum of 2 YZ acres each to make up the 5 acre parcel to be hunted. There are any number of combinations that could be developed for the City of Cottage Grove. The 5 acre minimum is supported by the DNR and wildlife officials and is successfully being used by other cities. At this time, comments from the audience were presented to the Commission. It was the general consensus of those who spoke, that it should not be the landowner who has to pay for permits to allow hunting on their property, more specifically, they don't want a permit system. They would like to see the ordinance reflect different language to open up for more hunting. Captain Woolery stated that this will be looked at more thoroughly. Case 04-07-01 Truck Noise and exhaust concerns on Hinton between 65� and 7p` Streets The Commission was provided a memo from Captain Woolery and a response memo from Sergeant Rinzel regarding his research and conclusions into the exhaust issued for motor vehicles. Captain Woolery advised that the city needs to replace the updated noise meter currently being used as it is about 30 years old and outdated, but costs an estimated $600. He advised that the police department will move forward to educate police officers and train them to appropriately enforce the current statutes that are already on the books. Page 5 PSHWC Meeting Minutes September 21, 2004 NEW BUSINESS None at this time. RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS None at this time. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS 1) Chairperson Karla Bigham advised that there is a need for more traffic enforcement on Indian Blvd, especially near the Ideal Avenue area approaching Jamaica Avenue. She stated that there is a 4 way stop at the intersection of Ideal and Indian Blvd. that is hard to see until you come up on it and that there are many vehicles that go right through without stopping. The times most noticeable are during school times, morning and afternoon. Captain Woolery will pass the information onto patrol. 2) Commission member Brian Hagen inquired as to who has the authority to set time limits on traffic signal lights on Hastings Avenue approaching Hadley and Grange. He advised that because 70' Street is closed, traffic is routed to Hastings Avenue and the signal lights are not timed properly. Captain Woolery will advise Public Works personnel. STAFF REPORTS POLICE - Captain Woolery advised the Commission that our SRO's are in the schools now. Officer Gail Griffith is at the Jr. High and Officer Kevin Kasaz is at the Sr. High. Both officers are taking 3 elementary schools each. Captain Woolery wanted to remind everyone that school is in session and to drive carefully and be aware of school buses and kids that are walking. Captain Woolery informed the Commission that Officer Greg Reibel retired after 30 years with the City. FIRE - Captain Gerlach informed the Commission that two Fire Fighter/EMTs are being backgrounded. They will be filling two open positions. He also advised that they are recruiting EMTs for day responses. $500 was raised for Parkside needy kids and the Fire Department along with the Parks and Rec Department will be sponsoring a kickball game. Page 6 PSHWC Meeting Minutes September 21, 2004 He wanted to invite the Commission to a picnic that will be held Sunday for all Public Safety Department personnel at Kingston Park at 1230 and is being sponsored by the Fire Auxilary. COUNCIL- Council Person Kohls advised the Commission that the city received two donations to the Fire Department to purchase a gas detector. Council Person Kohls informed the Commission that the City Council has recently discussed the current street naming policy and asked for input as it is possible the current policy of naming streets is a public safety issue because the continuity has changed from the way the city names newly developed streets. She would like any input they may have with regard to this. ADJOURN Motion by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, seconded by Commission member Jeff Rotheckerto adjourn the meeting at 9:30 p.m. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Cyndee Engfer—Administrative Secretary PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE COMMISSION MINUTES OF MEETING October 19, 2004 Pursuant to due notice, a meeting of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was held at the City Hall Council Chambers and was telecast on local Government Cable Channel 12. CALL TO ORDER: The October 19, 2004 meeting of the Cottage Grove Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Kyle Lindquist, Kris Meinert, Karla Bigham, Brian Hagen, Jeff Rothecker, Jennifer Osborne, Dave Wick STAFF PRESENT: Captain Craig Woolery, Lieutenant Pat Horst — Fire Approval of minutes: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the September 21, 2004 minutes for review. On a motion by Commission member Jeff Rothecker, seconded by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, the September 21, 2004 minutes were approved as submitted. Motion carried. Approval of aqenda: Chairperson Karla Bigham presented the October 19, 2004 agenda of the Public Safety, Health and Welfare Commission for review. On a motion by Commission member Dave Wick, seconded by Commission member Jeff Rothecker, the October 19, 2004 agenda was accepted and approved by the Commission. Motion carried. OPENFORUM Chairperson Bigham invited citizens present to address the Commission regarding any matters that were not on the approved agenda. There being no presentations, Chairperson Bigham closed the Open Forum segment of the meeting. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT The Commission reviewed the October 25, 2004 Planning Commission's Tentative meeting agenda and made the following comments. Case RSO4-051 Rodney and Mary Hale applying for a rural subdivision to subdivide an 18 acre parcel located on lower Grey Cloud Island into two parcels The Staff recommendation is initially denial of this application. The Public Safety Commission commented as to what exactly would the applicant have to do in order to meet the requirements in order to make the application to subdivide the property. Page 2 PSHWC Meeting Minutes October 19, 2004 Council Person Kohls commented that this is an ongoing process between Community Development planners and the applicant, that they attempt to work with the applicant on their cases. Case CUPO4-053 The Shops at Gate Way retail development — Las Margaritas applying for a conditional use permit to allow for a restaurant with liquor The Public Safety Commission commented that they support the application and felt the 4000 square footage is a decent size and that the project would serve the citizens of Cottage Grove. Comments were made by Council Person Kohls regarding the removal of the far western parking spots to eliminate a dead-end in parking scheme to provide ample room to allow vehicles to turn around in the parking lot. There being no additional discussion regarding the Planning Commission cases, this portion of the meeting was closed. OLD BUSINESS None at this time. NEW BUSINESS Case 04-10-01 Receive comment from neighboring residents of Robert Juckel, 8451 110 Street and William Petrich, 8275 110 Street for a special permit to allow discharge of firearms during the November 2004 deer hunting season. Public comment was heard from a number of property owners. There were initial concerns of safety and the discharge of firearms from the property, however, in discussion and after a short recess, all the persons present came to a consensus that they would agree to support City Council authorization to allow the discharge of firearms during the 2004 deer season on the following conditions: . That person(s) discharging a firearm, comply with all applicable state statutes under MN Chapter 97.B . Discharge of firearms will be limited to shotgun/slug during the 2004 state firearms season on Zone 1A, section 228, from November 6� to November 21 2004. • That discharge of the firearm must be from an elevated stand . That discharge of the firearm must be directed in an unpopulated area, directed away from residential areas and generally in an easterly direction . That no firearm projectiles leave the boundaries of the Juckel and Petrich properties Page 3 PSHWC Meeting Minutes October 19, 2004 . That there are no more than 5 hunters on the combined 80 acres at any given time • That the landowner/tenant accepts full responsibility for actions of any person(s) allowed to hunt on their property . Subject to City Council approval, a letter that includes the phone numbers and addresses of Mr. Juckel and Mr. Petrich, would be sent to all property owners that directly abut the Juckel and Petrich properties advising of the Council's decision for approval • Once the property owner receives the letter, they could elect to call Mr. Juckel and Mr. Petrich to be notified when any hunters are out hunting. Comments from the citizens present at the Commission meeting were both for and originally against the request for the special permit on the properties in question. However, after discussion between the property owners present and others, all persons did come to a consensus that they would support a Council authorization and approval for the discharge of firearms for the Juckel and Petrich properties. The following residents did make comment during the public forum. Chad Mangel, 11301 Inman Ken Bernadi, 8462 113` Street Bryce Thornberg, 8200 110� Street Dick Erickson, 8388 113� Street Connie House, 8234 110 Street Gene Smallidge, 10992 Pt. Douglas Road William Petrich, 8275 110 Street Robert Juckel, 8451 110� Street Scott Gerry, 8400 113� Street (not present but relayed a phone message) Larry Tastad, 11343 Inman The Public Safety Department has stated in the original memo to Council that it would support the use of firearms on the Juckel and Petrich properties under the conditions listed above and an understanding that the taking of deer during the 2004 deer season would not alleviate the problem, however, as part of this process, would be a long term management plan in attempts to control the over population of deer. On a motion by Jeff Rothecker, seconded by Dave Wick, the Commission recommended that hunting be allowed on the properties of Robert Juckel and William Petrich as listed in the conditions stated above. Motion carried. Page 4 PSHWC Meeting Minutes October 19, 2004 RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS None at this time. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS 1) Chairperson Karla Bigham had concerns regarding the traffic control and safety at the intersection of Hyde and Homestead. Captain Woolery advised that he would provide a response at the Commission's November meeting. 2) Commission member Kyle Lindquist inquired about the traffic control on 65"' and Hinton. He stated that there have been accidents at the intersection and would like to see a 4 way stop placed there. Captain Woolery advised that it has come to the County's attention and that a 4 way will be placed within the next week. Also comments were brought up about the street lighting in the area as it appears very dark on this stretch of roadway. Captain Woolery will look into this and advise at the next meeting. STAFF REPORTS POLICE - Captain Woolery advised the Commission that Sergeant Steve McCarthy, Officer Michael Vandervort and Officer Randy McAlister will be recognized at a dinner sponsored by MADD for their efforts in law enforcement actions against drunk drivers. Captain Woolery stated that on street parking is prohibited per city ordinance from October 1 to April 30 between the hours of 2 a.m. and 6 a.m. Captain Woolery went on to say that Halloween is coming up and to be aware of the kids that are out. FIRE - Lt. Pat Horst informed the Commission the new ambulance is in at Fire Station 2. He went on to say that there will be an Open House sponsored by the Fire Department held on October 7' All are welcome. Seven new fire fighters will be starting Fire Fighter courses. He advised that there will be a mass casualty exercise held at Woodbury on October 10, 2004, sponsored by the Fire Department and SoWashCo School district. Page 5 PSHWC Meeting Minutes October 19, 2004 COUNCIL- Council Person Kohls advised the Commission that the City Council will be holding a workshop to discuss Capital Improvements and invited all to attend the open workshop session. ADJOURN Motion by Commission member Kyle Lindquist, seconded by Commission member Jeff Rothecker to adjourn the meeting at 8:30 p.m. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Cyndee Engfer — Administrative Secretary