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Home My WebLink About2004-03-08 MINUTESREQUEST OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING ITEM # y /� DATE 04/21/04 �• r7• � • PREPARED BY: Public Works Les Burshten ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT STAFF AUTHOR .....,.�.�.,..�....�,..�...,,<<,,..�.�.�.«�.�...�.. COUNCIL ACTION REQUEST: Accept and place on file the minutes of the March 8, 2004 meeting of the Public Works Commission. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Approve the March 8, 2004 minutes of the Public Works Commission. BUDGET IMPLICATION: $ BUDGETED AMOUNT ADVISORY COMMISSION ACTION: DATE ❑ PLANNING ❑ PUBLIC SAFETY � PUBLIC WORKS 4/12/04 ❑ PARKS AND RECREATION ❑ HUMAN SERVICES/RIGHTS ❑ ECONOMIC DEV. AUTHORITY ❑ SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS: $ ACTUAL AMOUNT FUNDING SOURCE REVIEWED ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ APPROVED ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ DENIED ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ MEMO/LETTER: ❑ RESOLUTION: ❑ ORDINANCE: ❑ ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATION: ❑ LEGAL RECOMMENDATION: � OTHER: Approved minutes of Public Works Commission meeting on March 8, 2004 ADMINISTRATORS COMMENTS: ' � / /� / , i \�/�i� �i��. . ��. .. ._- ........�.,,,,.,�.��....,..�,..�,....x,.�...,,..�. COUNCIL ACTION TAKEN: [�APPROVED ❑ DENIED ❑ OTHER CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION March 8, 2004 Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a meeting of the Public Works Commission of Cottage Grove was duly held at the Public Works Garage, 8635 West Point Douglas Road, Cottage Grove, Minnesota, on March 8, 2004 at 7:00 pm. 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Ken Boyden called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm. 2. ROLL CALL David Anderson, Ken Boyden, Randy Eckstein, Roger Finnegan, David Thiede Staff Present: Les Burshten, Public Works Director Harry Taylo�, Public Works Supervisor Allan Larson, Public Works Technician Excused: Robert Dornsbach Also Present: Jim Wolcott, City Council Member Tom Thompson, Bonestroo & Associates Howard Blin, Community Development Director Citizens- residing in the 68� StreeUlnnsdale Vicinity 3. APPROVE MINUTES Upon a motion by Randy Eckstein, seconded by David Thiede, the February 9, 2004 minutes were approved unanimously. 4. ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS A. Appointment of Commission Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary David Thiede was nominated as Vice Chair of the Public Works Commission. Motion was made by Randy Eckstein, seconded by Roger Finnegan and unanimously carried. Ken Boyden was nominated as Chair of the Public Works Commission. Motion was made by Randy Eckstein, seconded by David Thiede and unanimously carried. Public Works Commission March 8, 2004 — Page 2 David Anderson was nominated as Secretary of the Public Works Commission. Motion was made by Ken Boyden, seconded by David Thiede and unanimously carried. 5. NEW BUSINESS A. Technical Review 6.1 CASE CUPO4-009 Thomas and Cheri Shannon have applied for a conditional use permit to allow a restaurant with liquor, American Motor Sports Bar and Grill, in the Grove Plaza Shopping Center, 7240 East. Point Douglas Road South. The restaurant will be in a mall location near Rainbow Foods. 6.2 CASE RSO4-010 Mainstreet Bank has applied for a simple lot division to subdivide a 10.963 acre parcel into two parcels of 10.6535 acres and .3095 acres. The .3095 acre parcel is the former Wells Fargo Bank building at 7200 East Point Douglas Road South. Harry Taylor reported there is an existing 18-inch trunk sanitary sewer beneath the drive —through portion of the bank. No problems, however, are anticipated with the lot division. 6.3 CASES CUPO4-011 and CUPO4-012 T-Mobile and Sprint Spectrum have each applied for conditional use permits to allow the addition of wireless telephone antennas on top of the city's water tower at 8520 g1 Street South and to construct an equipment shelter in conjunction with each other. Taylor stated that the two companies are working together and met with City staff earlier this year. Funds received from the lease agreement are placed in the Water Utility Fund to help offset the cost of painting water towers. 6.4 CASES CUPO4-013. SPO4-014 and VO4-015 WD Partners, on behalf of RT Minneapolis Franchise LLC, has applied for site plan review of a 5,800 square foot Ruby Tuesday Restaurant, a conditional use permit to allow a restaurant with liquor sales, and a variance to reduce the required 30-foot parking setback along the eastern property line to 10 feet. The restaurant would be located on the northeast corner of Hardwood Avenue and Hardwood Court. The location is just north of the Burnet Realty building between the new cul-de-sac on the north side, east of Hardwood, just before the park entrance. Taylor explained that as part of the Hardwood Avenue Project, two water services were stubbed in with one located in the south towards Hardwood Court. It is preferred that Ruby Tuesday's use Public Works Commission March 8, 2004 — Page 3 this service. It is also recommended that the water line in the parking lot be increased to 6" in order to supply adequate fire hydrant coverage. The setback variance is requested in order to maximize the parking area. 6.5 CASE TA04-018 The City of Cottage Grove has applied for a zoning text amendment to amend Title 11 0 the City Code relating to currency exchange businesses The zoning amendment is being done to regulate check cashing done at the "In Concert" location. B. Standard Road Width Discussion Allan Larson discussed detail plates included in the packet illustrating various road widths and how wide a road should be to appropriately accommodate larger vehicles such as snowplows and fire trucks. Aspects to consider regarding road widths: . When a snowplow is in use, it spans 19 feet in order to plow snow • There must be a distance separation of utilities When utilities are placed in a 28-foot wide street, it pushes the water main considerably closer to the catch basins increasing the probability of water main freeze up. Council Member Wolcott indicated that some terminology used in describing street widths can be unclear (for example — the term "back to back"). He suggested that terms be simplified to "driving surface" or "paved surface" to clarify road width. Additionally, photos should be available in order to illustrate the various road widths, perhaps placing a snowplow or a fire truck in the roadway in order to visualize how much room they require. It was agreed by the commission that a joint meeting be planned with representatives from the following groups: . City Council . City Staff (Police, Fire, Community Development) • City Commissions Information will be gathered and presented at a future date to be determined. 6. OLD BUSINESS A. Stop Sign 68� Street and Innsdale Allan Larson began the discussion by stating resident, Mar� Ringhofer, 8383 68` Street, requested a stop sign be placed at the intersection of 68 Street and Innsdale Public Works Commission March 8, 2004 — Page 4 Avenue due to an accident that occurred on Saturday, February 21, 2004. In November of 2003, resident Angela Banaszewski made a similar request. TonighYs meeting was attended by a number of residents living in the vicinity of 68` Street and Innsdale who all are in favor of placing a stop sign at this location. Resident Concerns: . 68� and Innsdale is an uncontrolled intersection. . Many motorist are traveling at a high rate of speed . There is a visibility problem at the intersection . Accidents have occurred at the location recently (2 in the last month) . Dangerous area for children — residents wish to use preventative measures to make the area safer for kids Chair Ken Boyden explained that one of the obligations of this commission is to follow guidelines set forth by the State of Minnesota on traffic control and stop signs and these guidelines must be met. He added that stop signs should not be used as an intent to control speed. Consistency of sign placement should also be followed. At this time it was suggested a yield sign be placed near the intersection, both directions, to warn motorists of the coming uncontrolled intersection. The possibility of placing an unmarked police car in the area to catch violators was also discussed. As the lengthy discussion concluded, it was agreed that placing a stop sign on 68` Street (which is not a collector road) may alleviate some of the recent problems at the intersection by assigning right of way. Allan Larson agreed that this procedure would follow standards where a minor roadway is stopped and the collector roadway is not. MOTION MADE BY RANDY ECKSTEIN, SECONDED BY DAVID THIEDE, TO PLACE A STOP SIGN ON 68 STREET WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH INNSDALE AVENUE. MOTION WAS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. EAST RAVINE UPDATE — Community Development Director Howard Blin Community Development Director Blin stated there are three potential design concepts for the development of the East Ravine Area which were presented at an Open House on January g` Concept A: Represents existing comprehensive plan Concept B: Adds commercial development to the intersection of County Road 19 and 70` Street Concept C: Adds open space Public Works Commission March 8, 2004 — Page 5 Mr. Blin also explained the various housing options: . Low Density Residential: 1-5 units per acre, mainly single family residential. Might allow twin homes or low density town homes. . Medium Density: - 6-12 units per acre — townhouses . High Density — 12 units and more per acre Additionally, two commercial areas are proposed — 1. High intensity `Big Bo�' - large retailers like a Wal-Mart type store 2. Mixed Use — one story office-type and retail buildings with residential mixed in. (Similar to Arbor Lakes in Maple Grove, a"Main StreeY'- type development. Blin added Washington County is looking for a site for service center with the East Ravine area being a possibility. Additionally, the City of Cottage Grove is exploring areas for a community center. School District #833 is also looking at potential sites for a large high school. It is hoped a"Green Corridor" concept will be encouraged setting aside land on either side of the road for landscaping for a buffer zone versus having mismatched fences along the roadway. Blin concluded by saying there's a plan to develop design standards, specifically different from the past including home design, (square feet requirements, use of brick and stone, garage flush with the front of house, etc.) Boyden indicated the importance of appropriate road width standards. Wolcott added that installation of sidewalks be discussed. Maintenance of the sidewalks is getting to be a concern — there's only so much staff and equipment. The Commission thanked Blin for his presentation tonight. 9. ENGINEERS REPORT No further discussion. 10. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND REQUESTS No further discussion. 11. ADJOURNMENT Motion for adjournment was made by David Thiede, seconded by Roger Finnegan. Motion was unanimous and meeting adjourned at 10:05 pm. Respectfully submitted, �at,-Lc;.a� Sto�-iry