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COTTAGE GROVE CITY COUNCIL
APRIL 18, 2001
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OPEN FORUM - 7:15 P.M.
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agenda, but must limit remarks to two (2) minutes. Open forum will adjourn to the Regular
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REGULAR MEETING - 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor
ROLL CALL — City Clerk
1. ADOPTION OF AGENDA
2. PRESENTATIONS
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. April 4, 2001 Regular Meeting
4. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Accept and Place on File the Following Minutes:
*'`i. Economic Development Authority of February 13, 2001 and March 13,
2001.
B. Consider adopting a resolution accepting a grant from Washington County
School-to-Work to provide financial rewards to youth volunteers in the
Recreation Department's U-Lead and U/R Programs.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution. The grant is in the amount of$2,557.50.
C. Consider authorizing issuance of a single-occasion gambling permit to The
Phoenix Residence, Inc. to conduct a raffle at Mississippi Dunes Golf Course,
10351 Grey Cloud Trail, on June 12, 2001.
Staff Recommendation:Authorize issuance of the single-occasion gambling permit. During the
required background investigation by the Public Safety Department no facts were found which
would constitute denial of the permit.
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D. Consider authorizing issuance of a single-occasion gambling permit to the
Church of St. Rita to conduct a raffle, bingo and pull-tabs at the Church of St.
Rita, 8694 — 80th Street South, on September 22 & 23, 2001.
Staff Recommendation:Authorize issuance of the single-occasion gambling permit. During the
required background investigation by the Public Safety Department no facts were found which
would constitufe denial of the permif.
E. Consider approving payment of second quarter 2001 support for the Youth
Service Bureau.
Staff Recommendation:Approve second quarter payment. The ba/ance in the gambling fund is
approximately$46,000 at 3/31/01.
F. Consider the appointment of John DeBaere to the position of Working Foreman
in the Streets Maintenance Division of the Public Works Department.
Staff Recommendation:Approval of the appointment of John DeBaere to the position of
Working Foreman in the Streets Maintenance Division;this is an exempt position within the
bargaining group that will report directly to the Public Works Supervisor. The position performs
a variety of duties in the maintenance and operation of the City's street and storm sewer
systems and is directly responsible for the supervision of Sfreets Maintenance Division
personnel as directed by the Public Works Supervisor.
G. Consider approval of the final plat for Hidden Valley 10th Addition, which will
consist of 20 lots for single-family homes and 3 outlots. The preliminary plat
was approved on June 2, 1998.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt fhe resolution approving the�nal plat for Hidden Valley 10th
Addition.
H. Consider authorizing the replacement of the main City Hall file server, which is
no longer powerful enough to perForm all necessary functions.
Staff Recommendation:Authorize the purchase of a replacement main file server at a cost of
$12,931.29 from Dell Computers, Inc.
I. Consider adopting a resolution transferring $54,752 from the Water Area Fund
(575) to the CGTAP Fund (552)
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution.
J. Consider adopting a resolution authorizing the creation of the Celebration Fund
as of 1/1/00 and the transfer of$7,000 from the General Fund to the
Celebration Fund during 2001.
Sfaff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution.
K. Adopt the final 2001-2006 Capital Improvement Plan.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the fina12001-2006 Capital Improvement Plan.
L. Consider approving a variance to Title 11-3-3, Accessory Structures, to allow
construction of a 780 square-foot garage in front of the principal structure at
6740 Goodview Court South.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt a resolution approving the variance.
M. Consider adopting a resolution authorizing Bonestroo Rosene Anderlik &
Associates to prepare a feasibility report and plans and specifications for the
public utility and street improvement project for the proposed elementary school
to be located at 7447 — 65th Street.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution.
**N. Consider approval of a simple lot division of a 20-acre parcel of land located at
6240 Ideal Avenue South into finro separate taxing parcels of 17.5 acres and 2.5
acres.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution approving a simple lot division of a 20-acre parcel
located at 6240 Ideal Avenue South into two separate taxing parcels of 17.5 acres and 2.5
acres.
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**O. Consider approval of a simple lot division of a 20-acre parcel of land located at
6120 Ideal Avenue South into two separate taxing parcels of 17.5 acres and 2.5
acres.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution approving a simple lot division of a 20-acre parcel
/ocated at 61201deal Avenue South into two separate taxing parcels of 17.5 acres and 2.5
acres.
**P. Consider modification of the Investigative Aide position.
Staff Recommendation:Modify the Investigative Aide position to eliminate Dispatch duties of the
current job description, and place the posifion in either Pay Grade IX or X of the 2001 Pay Plan
for Non-Represented Employees.
5. RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED OPEN FORUM ISSUES
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
*A. Hold the public hearing on Modification to the Development Program for
Development District No. 1 and the Modification of the Tax Increment Financing
Plans for Tax Increment Financing District Nos. 1-1 and 1-3, and adopt a
resolution approving the Modifications.
Staff Recommendation:Hold the public hearing and adopt fhe resolution.
7. BID AWARDS
8. UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
A. Consider approving an interFund loan to the Ice Arena Fund from the Closed
Debt Service Fund in the amount of$850,000.
Staff Recommendation:Approve interfund loan to the Ice Arena Fund from the Closed Debt
Service Fund.
B. Consider adopting a resolution approving 2000 to 2001 budget carry forwards
and designating December 31, 2000 fund balance. Consider adopting a second
resolution authorizing the transfer of$100,000 from the General Fund (100) to
the Equipment Replacement Fund (250).
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the resolutions.
C. Consider approval of an ordinance rezoning certain properties with the City of
Cottage Grove to bring them into compliance with the approved 2020
Comprehensive Plan.
Staff Recommendation:Adopt the ordinance rezoning certain properties within the City of
Cottage Grove, which will bring them into compliance with fhe approved 2020 Comprehensive
Plan.
D. Consider denial of a variance to Title 11-15-8C, Mississippi River Corridor
Overlay District bluff line setback requirements, to allow construction of a
swimming pool �t 11931 Lofton Avenue South.
Sfaff Recommendation:Adopt the resolution denying the variance.
9. RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
10. CQUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
11. PAY BILLS
A. Approve payment of check numbers 118227 to 118449 in the amount of
$652.267.50.
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12. WORKSHOP SESSION — OPEN TO PUBLIC
**A. Thompson Grove Pavement Management Project.
13. WORKSHOP SESSION — CLOSED TO PUBLIC
A. Personnellssues.
ADJOURNMENT
* Contains Supplemental Information
** Packet Item Submitted 4/16/01
REGULAR MEETING
COTTAGE GROVE CITY COUNCIL
April 18, 2001
OPEN FORUM — 7:15 p.m.
Open forum provides a person an opportunity to inform the Council of a problem or to request
information related to City business not scheduled for Council action and on the Agenda. Mayor
Shiely encouraged persons to limit their remarks to two (2) minutes per issue.
Present: Mayor Sandy Shiely
Council Member Pat Rice
Council Member Cheryl Kohls
Council Member Jim Wolcott
Council Member Rod Hale
Also Present: Ryan Schroeder, City Administrator
Ron Hedberg, Finance Director
Jim Kinsey, Public Safety Director
Jerry Bourdon, City Engineer, BRAA
Les Burshten, Public Works Director
Kim Lindquist, Director of Community Development
Corrine Thomson, City Attorney, Kennedy and Graven
Michelle Wolfe, Assistant City Administrator
No one appeared under Open Forum.
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council of the City of Cottage Grove, Washington County, Minnesota held a regular meeting
on Wednesday, April 18, 2001, at the Cottage Grove City Hall, 7516 80'h Street South. Mayor Shiely
called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Sandy Shiely
Council Member Pat Rice
Council Member Cheryl Kohls
Council Member Jim Wolcott
Council Member Rod Hale
Also Present: Ryan Schroeder, City Administrator
Ron Hedberg, Finance Director
Jim Kinsey, Public Safety Director
Jerry Bourdon, City Engineer, BRAA
Les Burshten, Public Works Director
Kim Lindquist, Director of Community Development
Corrine Thompson, City Attorney, Kennedy and Graven
Michelle Wolfe, Assistant City Administrator
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Mayor Shiely presided over the meeting.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO APPROVE THE FINAL AGENDA.
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
PRESENTATIONS
NONE.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the April 4, 2001 Regular Council Meeting were approved as presented.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Council Member Kohls asked to pull item K for discussion. She stated the list originally received, the
Capital Improvement Plan, was a list of proposed projects for the next 10 years, which was reviewed.
She explained since the project review, a memo has been received from the Finance Director that
includes more detail regarding the Annual Debt Service Levy. She explained that she has several
questions and concerns and suggested the item be moved to Unfinished and New Business but
asked if it would be possible to table the discussion for two weeks. She stated this would give her
time to discuss the additional information with the Finance Director before making any decisions.
Mayor Shiely stated Item K is moved to Unfinished Business where a motion can be made at that
time to table discussion.
Mayor Shiely stated that it appears there is a typo under Item 4d noting the police background report
show September 22 and 23, 2000 and it should be September 22 and 23, 2001.
MOTION BY HALE, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO:
A. ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE THE FOLLOWING MEETING MINUTES:
i. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF FEBRUARY 13, 2001 AND MARCH
13, 2001.
B. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-035 ACCEPTING A GRANT FROM WASHINGTON COUNTY
SCHOOL-TO-WORK FOR COTTAGE GROVE RECREATION DEPARTMENT'S U-LEAD
AND U/R YOUTH VOLUNTEERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,557.50.
C. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF A SINGLE-OCCASION GAMBLING PERMIT TO THE PHOENIX
RESIDENCE, INC., TO CONDUCT A RAFFLE AT THE MISSISSIPPI DUNES GOLF
COURSE, 10351 GREY CLOUD TRAIL, ON JUNE 12, 2001.
D. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF A SINGLE-OCCASION GAMBLING PERMIT TO THE CHURCH
OF ST. RITA TO CONDUCT A RAFFLE, BINGO AND PULL TAB OPERATIONS AT THE
CHURCH OF ST. RITA, 8694 80T" STREET SOUTH, ON SEPTEMBER 22 AND 23, 2001.
E. APPROVE PAYMENT OF SECOND QUARTER 2001 SUPPORT FOR THE YOUTH
SERVICE BUREAU IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,500.00.
F. APPROVE APPOINTMENT OF JOHN DEBAERE TO THE POSITION OF WORKING
FOREMAN IN THE STREETS MAINTENANCE DIVISION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT.
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G. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-036 APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT KNOWN AS HIDDEN
VALLEY 10T" ADDITION.
H. AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT MAIN FILE SERVER FROM DELL
COMPUTERS, INC., AT A COST OF $12,931.29.
I. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-037 TRANSFERRING $54,752 FROM THE WATER AREA
FUND (575) TO THE Cottage Grove Tax Assistance Program (552).
J. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-038 CREATING A CELEBRATION FUND.
K. THIS ITEM WAS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
L. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-039 APPROVING A VARIANCE TO TITLE 11-3-3,
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, OF THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A 780
SQUARE FOOT GARAGE IN FRONT OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AT 6740
GOODVIEW COURT SOUTH.
M. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-040 AUTHORIZING PREPARATION OF A FEASIBILITY
REPORT AND PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL PUBLIC UTILITIES AND STREET
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROPOSED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 7447 65T" STREET
SOUTH.
N. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-041 APPROVING A SIMPLE LOT DIVISION OF A 20-ACRE
PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT 6240 IDEAL AVENUE SOUTH INTO TWO SEPARATE
TAXING PARCELS OF 17.5 ACRES AND 2.5 ACRES.
O. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-042 APPROVING A SIMPLE LOT DIVISION OF A 20-ACRE
PARCEL. OF LAND LOCATED AT 6120 IDEAL AVENUE SOUTH INTO TWO SEPARATE
TAX PARCELS OF 17.5 ACRES AND 2.5 ACRES.
P. APPROVE MODIFICATION OF THE INVESTIGATIVE AIDE POSITION AND PLACE
POSITION IN EITHER PAY GRADE IX OR X OF THE 2001 PAY PLAN.
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Shiely stated all Items on the Consent Calendar except Item K have been passed.
RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED OPEN FORUM ISSUES
NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Hold the public hearing on Modification to the Development Program for Development District
No. 1 and the Modification of the Tax Increment Financing Plans for Tax Increment Financinq
District Nos. 1-1 and 1-3, and adopt a resolution approving the Modifications.
Mayor Shiely stated the public hearing was open and asked if anyone from the audience would like to
speak. She noted no one from the audience stepped forward stating the public hearing is closed to
public statements.
City Administrator Ryan Schroeder stated the Economic Development Authority (EDA) recommends
adoption of the Resolution for Modification to the Development Program for Development District No.
1 and the Modification of the Tax Increment Financing Plans. He stated both districts are
redevelopment districts created in 1985 noting one is a housing redevelopment district for the
Oakwood Heights project, the other is an economic redevelopment district for the Up North Plastics
project. He stated this is to make corrections and to clarify intent of use of the proceeds for both
districts. He stated this needs to be done to bring these districts into conformance with current state
law. City Administrator Schroeder stated the reasons for bringing this to the Council now is in
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anticipation of legislation currently proposed that, if adopted by the State, could restrict municipalities
from amending budgets for redevelopment districts that were created prior to 1990.
City Administrator Schroeder stated the changes recommended for adoption would do six things in
both cases. He reviewed the six items with the Council noting this information is included in the
information packet that was provided to the Council. He stated these six items would address both
cases.
City Administrator Schroeder explained the six items to the Council. He stated the first item is to
expand the budget for each district to include interest earnings, interfund loans and interfund
transfers as tax increment funds. He clarified this will not provide additional revenue sources to the
City stating it is only recognizing the items within the budget that were not recognized earlier. He
referenced 1985 as an example stating interest earnings were not classified as tax increments noting
with past legislative changes they are now included. He stated the second item is to clarify budgets
for previous expenditures citing an example to the Council that clarified discrepancies between
budget versus actual expenses is to correct and recognize the expenditure incurred. He stated the
third item is to increase authorization of bonded indebtedness, the fourth item is to explicitly authorize
refunding of bonds, the fifth item is to clarify the duration of the district noting this is a 25-year district
sun setting in 2011, and the sixth item is to clarify the amounts of the transfers of tax increments. He
stated both will cover these items and clarified this is not amending the total bottom line budgets. He
referenced the materials received stating the changes do include the opportunity to allocate any
excess revenues to shortfalls in other districts and allows the right to expend any excess revenues
throughout the development districts. He noted this is the urbanized area of the community stating if
there are project eligible expenditures or needs in these districts the excess can be directed to these
areas. He asked for further clarification from Assistant Ciry Administrator Michelle Wolfe stating the
Economic Development Authority is recommending approval of this action and is requesting Council's
adoption of the Resolution.
Assistant City Administrator Wolfe referenced the schedule stating there are several steps that need
to be accomplished per State statute, which includes the Planning Commission review. To assess
conformance with the City's comprehensive plan, the Commission has taken action on the item. She
stated public hearing notices and all required steps have been completed as per the statute. She
stated this is the final City action and proceeds to certification.
Mayor Shiely asked for clarification on the section in the report that deals with the fact that we are not
talking about any more money or the bottom line is the same.
City Administrator Schroeder explained this is to amend the line items to recognize where
expenditures have occurred. He clarified that neither revenue nor additional opportunity for
expenditure is being created beyond what is currently anticipated in the present budget.
Council Member Hale asked if this would be done regardless of whether or not there is pending
legislation clarifying this is a housekeeping item. He asked if the legal staff prepared the Resolution or
is it a model that is used.
City Administrator Schroeder stated this is being done because of pending legislation noting it has
been under consideration prior to State legislation. He clarified to Council Member Hale that Ehlers
and Associates prepared the Resolution, which is the same as in other communities.
MOTION BY HALE, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-043 OF THE
CITY OF COTTAGE GROVE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDING THAT THE MODIFICATION TO
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THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NO. 1 AND THE
MODIFICATION TO THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PLANS FOR TAX INCREMENT
FINANCING DISTRICTS NOS. 1-1 AND 1-3 CONFORM TO THE GENERAL PLANS FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
BID AWARDS
NONE
UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
A. Consider approving an interfund loan to the Ice Arena Fund from the Closed Debt Service
Fund in the amount of$850,000.
Mayor Shiely stated Council is asked to approve an additional interfund loan to fund operations at the
Ice Arena for 1999, 2000 and into 2001 in the amount of$850,000. The cash balance at the
beginning of 2000 was approximately negative ($109,000) and at the end of 2000 will be
approximately negative ($476,000). The cash and fund balance at any given time are not expected to
be the same because of normal liabilities and receivables occurring in the course of business as well
as prior loans. A table of the past Ice Arena results was included with the information packet provided
to the Council for review.
Finance Director Ron Hedberg stated this is one of the cleanup issues for closing the books for the
year 2000. He stated significant amounts have been spent on capital improvements over the last 5
years for the ice arena. He stated in the last three years $545,000 has been spent. He stated in the
last two years there have been interfund loans from one fund to the ice arena to provide cash to
complete the capital improvements. He explained this request is another interim interfund loan to
cover unfinanced capital improvements as well as the operating deficits from the year 2000 and 1999.
He stated the ice arena operated with a deficit in 1999 noting no funding was provided. He stated the
cash needs at the end of December are approximately $476,000. He stated they are proposing to
include in the interfund loan enough cash to finance the operations for the year 2001 noting the ice
arena has a deficit budget for the year 2001 that needs approximately $235,000. He stated there are
two existing interfund loans noting the intent is to roll these two loans into one interfund loan. He
explained this would pay off the balance of two interfund loans in the amount of$139,000 at the end
of 2000. The benefit to do this interfund loan at this time is that it provides the opportunity to finance
the ice arena operations until the year 2002. He stated it would need to be addressed in the 2002
budget process referencing an annual debt service payment required in the Resolution. The interfund
loan repayment will need to be addressed in the 2002 budget as well as in the operating deficits for
the ice arena.
Finance Director Hedberg stated there are actually four options that can be considered. The first is
not to do anything. He explained that because it is a negative cash position, an informal interFund
borrowing is occurring. He stated the financial statements would show zero cash in the ice arena fund
where it is actually a negative $476,000. He stated at the end of year for accounting purposes they
will need to get cash to zero noting it will become an informal interfund loan at that time. He stated on
January 1 st it reverses and the cash is back to a negative $476,000. He stated the second option
would be to do an additional third interfund loan to provide enough cash to get it to zero at the end of
2000. He stated the third option would be to provide enough cash to roll the two existing interfund
loans into one loan. He stated the fourth option would be to refinance the existing loans and provide
enough cash for 2001 operations.
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Mayor Shiely stated there was a real need to discuss 2002 and beyond clarifying that this is a
stopgap.
Finance Director Hedberg stated this is a stopgap and only gets the ice arena to the end of 2001. He
stated that as a part of the 2002 budgeting process a discussion and decision needs to be made with
respect to strategy and funding.
Council Member Hale asked if the P&L for the ice arena would carry the interest as an expense for
the $850,000 and asked where it would appear on a balance sheet. He clarified the amount of the
current loan is at 5.5%. He asked if they would be able to pay this loan off within the 10-year
timeframe.
Finance Director Hedberg clarified to Council Member Hale that the P&L for the ice arena would carry
the interest as an expense stating there is a balance sheet included with the financial statement and
is provided to the City for review. He confirmed the current loan is 7 years at 5.5% interest, which is
comparable rate in the market today. He stated the existing loans were for 7 years and are proposed
to be extended in 10 years due to the budgetary burden. He stated it is hoped in the 2002 budget
discussions a decision will be made about the ice arena and future subsides.
City Administrator Schroeder clarified that the expectation is that nothing changes. He stated if this is
done and the operation runs as it has been and the debt continues to be an expense to the operation,
it would be considering approximately $150-160,000 transfer annually to keep the operation afloat.
Council Member Kohls asked for clarification on option 4 asking if it would also come out of the
closed debt fund. She also asked for clarification on closed debt funds, what it is, and what the money
is traditionally used for. She asked if the City has a specific policy for use and balance.
Finance Director Hedberg stated the cash would be provided from the closed debt fund because that
fund has the most amount of cash that is uncommitted. He explained when projects are financed the
dollars are provided to start the construction. Finance Director Hedberg stated it is the policy to
transfer any monies left over into the Closed Debt Fund. The money then becomes available for other
eligible projects similar to special assessment debt. He stated the balance of the Closed Debt Fund is
over$2 million. He explained that because it is an interfund loan from one fund to another, it is up to
the Council's discretion to determine the terms of the loan.
Council Member Hale clarified Finance Director Hedberg's comments stating that when the 2002
budget is reviewed a decision is needed as to whether the ice arena would be able to pay this debt.
He further clarified if they are not able to pay it off it may be necessary to look at the general fund to
subsidize this debt noting this is one of the options being considered.
Finance Director Hedberg stated it is his expectation that when they do the 2002 levy there will be a
component for a subsidy to the ice arena.
Mayor Shiely expressed her hopes that the Council agree there is a need to have further discussion
about the future and how the ice arena situation will be handled. She recommended a discussion take
place to make a decision.
Council Member Kohls stated in past discussions it was decided that they would have periodic
workshops to discuss ice arena issues and expressed her agreement with Mayor Shiely. She stated
her preference would be to have these discussions before they begin discussion around the budgets.
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Mayor Shiely stated a need to work together and do brainstorming to determine what can be done
and restated Council Member Kohls' suggestion to have this done before August 2001.
Council Member Wolcott stated there was a discussion during the budget process where a goal was
set stating the ice arena would be subsidized for no more than $100,000. He noted the ice arena
manager position is not yet filled which in turn has caused some delays in the process. He clarified
that they understood the ice arena would need to subsidized to a certain extent stating $195,000 was
not acceptable, noting $100,000 was the agreed upon goal.
Council Member Kohls suggested a memo with an update to provide an idea as to where they are at
in the process.
MOTION BY HALE, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-044 APPROVE AN
INTERFUND LOAN TO THE ICE ARENA FUND FROM THE CLOSED DEBT SERVICE FUND IN
THE AMOUNT OF $850,000. MOTION 5-0.
B. Consider adopting a resolution approving 2000 to 2001 budget carry forwards and designatinq
December 31, 2000 fund balance. Consider adopting a second resolution authorizing the
transfer of$100 000 from the General Fund (100) to the Equipment Replacement Fund (250).
Mayor Shiely stated this is to consider a resolution approving the carryover of budgeted and unspent
amounts from the 2000 to the 2001 budget year in addition to considering a transfer of$100,000 from
the General Fund to the Equipment Replacement Fund for the future replacement of the aerial ladder
truck.
Mayor Shiely suggested the discussion begin with the budget carry forwards and designating
December 31, 2000 fund balance.
Finance Director Hedberg stated the first discussion on carry forwards requires 3 separate
discussions due to the inter-relation of the issues and recommended discussing them all together. He
explained the budget carry forwards are uncompleted projects that were budgeted for the year 2000
and are still uncompleted. He stated the staff is requesting they carryover the budget amounts into
the following year. He referenced the packet materials, page finro shows a list of the dollar amounts
with a brief description as to what is being carried forward. He stated in the general fund there is
$211,000, utilities fund includes $259,000 which includes $150,000 for the Salt Storage Shed,
equipment replacement fund includes $91,000 and a $2000 EDA fund bill. He stated the special
funding requests include a carryover from 1999 to 2000 for a $185,000 seal coating program that was
not completed at that time. He stated in 2000 the normal seal coating program was completed noting
the additional seal coating was not completed. He stated the Public Works Department has requested
the amount be carried over and apply it to the Salt Storage Building stating this is a definite change in
the original budgeted use of those funds and requires a decision by the Council. He stated the next
item is designating a portion of the City's remaining undesignated fund balance at the end of 2000 for
the purchase of mobile data computers for police cars. He stated the Chief has applied for and
received a grant that includes a potential City cost with this grant for an approximate cost of$40,000
depending upon the possibility of receiving another grant for the remaining costs. He explained that
due to the fact that there was no surplus dollars available in the Police Department he felt it was
appropriate for the Council to address this as an use of general fund balance or Council contingency
rather than a budget carryover in the Police Department.
Finance Director Hedberg stated the third item included in the carry over discussion is for designating
fund balances for specific purposes. He explained that money is collected each
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year that is restricted in use noting they are designating the money so it isn't spent for other
purposes. He referenced the 911 Enhanced Communication fees that are collected stating there is
approximately $38,000 that remains unspent at the end of 2000 noting the use of this money is
restricted and they want to designate the fund balance to ensure it is not used for any other purpose.
Finance Director Hedberg added that the $38,000 remaining in the 911 enhanced communication
fees could potentially be used toward the local share of the polices Mobile Delta Computer Grant.
Mayor Shiely asked for clarification on the $9,000 US West gave to the Police Department asking if
this was a one-time payment or are they paying a yearly fee/lease. Finance Director Hedberg stated it
was a one-time payment of$9,000 and was for the loss of the storage area. He stated they are not
paying a yearly lease noting others do but he did not know why they do not pay a leasing fee.
Chief Kinsey stated the contract with Qwest does call for the City of Cottage Grove to become
owners of the tower after a given period of time stating it was his belief that the period was 25 years.
City Administrator Schroeder clarified that they do get paid for the construction of the tower and are
allowed an antenna on the tower. He stated that typically they allow a company to place an antenna
on a tower and they_ receive a dollar amount annually for this but Qwest provided the construction not
the City of Cottage Grove. This is the reason they do not receive an annual lease payment.
Chief Kinsey stated this did provide the City with a tower that allows them to install their radio
equipment noting they have gained a better system that they did not have to pay for and the City is
saving money on repairs.
Mayor Shiely asked for further questions on the first resolution stating she would prefer to work on
each resolution separately.
Council Member Wolcott expressed concerns about the seal coating stating they have made large
investments on the new roads. He stated his concern would be if there were cutbacks on seal coating
it will affect and shorten the life of the road. He stated his concerns that there is money being
removed from seal coating after there was a request for additional funding. He stated he does not
want to see a cutback in seal coating and asked for assurance from Public Works Director Burshten
that this would not affect the life of the roads. He clarified that the seal coating is still on track and
being done on schedule referencing the roads and construction.
Public Works Director Burshten stated this is not jeopardizing the program at all, noting the money is
allocated in the 2001 budget for the seal coating. He stated a large coat was applied two years ago
and the dollars being discussed were in addition to the regular coating they are presently doing. He
stated there is a large program this year and confirmed they will be able to continue the seven-year
rotation. He stated at one time they were on a five-year rotation schedule, which was successful. He
stated they have changed the type of rock used and they are now able to extend the rotation time. He
stated he does not see any issues and confirmed the program would not be affected. He stated he
did not believe there would be a problem outside of unforeseen issues that would be outside their
control, referencing a potential rise in the petroleum prices. He stated they are on schedule and
confirmed they are sealing, on schedule, two years after construction.
City Administrator Schroeder clarified this is not taking money from the 2001 budget noting there is
approximately $185-190,000 in 2001 for seal coating. He stated this is much like the Closed Debt
Fund stating each year over the last four years they have increased the allocations for seal coating
and the bids have been less than the allocation. He stated they have rolled the difference forward
each year noting this is residual from 1999 and 2000.
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Council Member Hale stated he had the same concerns as expressed by Council Member Wolcott
noting the words referenced as "uncompleted seal coating" stating it does not discuss that the
objective of seal coating has been accomplished. He stated the way it is described that the money
was left over after completion of the project again referencing the words "uncompleted projects".
Public Works Director Burshten stated it should not read "uncompleted". He stated all that has been
anticipated has been completed and they are on schedule.
Council Member Wolcott asked for clarification that they are seal coating all roads two years after
construction. He referenced the pavement management over the last five years with a follow up two
years later with a seal coating and expressed his concerns that the money is spent for seal coating.
Public Works Director Burshten cited examples of decisions made where seal coating was delayed at
the scheduled intervals due to roads in need of repairs. He acknowledged this would not necessarily
prolong the life of the asphalt noting the asphalt was already at a stage where they did not do the seal
coating. He stated they are on schedule now where this will not happen, noting that as they do the
new roads they are seal coating two years after they were paved and continuing the program on a
seven year cycle going forward.
Council Member Wolcott restated his concerns regarding the amount of money the City is spending
putting in new roads and suggested there is a need for assurance that they are maintained for the
maximum amount of life.
Mayor Shiely asked that this discussion be clearly detailed in the meeting minutes.
Finance Director Hedberg clarified there is a budget carryover for uncommitted Council contingency
from 1999 into 2000 noting the Resolution being discussed does not carry any of this in noting there
is $28,000 uncommitted in the Council Contingency for 2001 budget. He suggested adding some
money to Council Contingency for 2001 stating it could come from $185,000 as an option or from the
General Fund balance or carryover a previous Council Contingency. He stated the decision is up to
the Council. Putting the $185,000.00 into Council Contingency is an option if the Council is not
comfortable committing it towards the Salt Storage building at this time. He stated if not committed
the money would remain in Fund balance stating only the designation will change.
Council Member Hale asked where the money would be placed.
Mayor Shiely clarified that if the Council specifies its purpose would prevent spending on other items.
She stated she had read differently stating her understanding was that they were looking at an
amount at the end of 2000 of$254,000 in the Council Contingency.
Finance Director Hedberg stated the Council Contingency, at the end of 2000, like any other
budgeted line item that is not spent, goes into fund balance. He noted that when he created the
material he did not carry over the Council Contingency stating the balance for 2001 is already at
$150,000. He clarified that he verified the dollar amounts and commitments noting that presently it is
down to $28,000. He stated the Council Contingency, if they adopt the Resolution in the packet,
would be $28,000 for 2001. He stated there is the unused Council Contingency from 1999 and 2000
that has not been carried over noting they can carry this forward if they choose. He stated this is
presently in fund balance.
Council Member Kohls asked how much is presently in the Council Contingency fund.
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City Administrator Schroeder stated allocations from the fund balance could be done noting it was
important to carry this forward into the fund balance. He noted revenues have been coming in slightly
higher than projections and expenditures have been coming in slightly lower referencing past
performance.
Council Member Wolcott stated there is an item under utilities for the salt storage shed and asked if
the amount from the seal coating would be added to this.
Finance Director Hedberg stated that when the salt storage shed was brought in for approval the
dollar amount discussed was in excess of$300,000.
Mayor Shiely clarified that it was determined that this is what we need noting they will not get a shed
for$150,000.
Finance Director Hedberg asked if the Council wants to carry over its own unspent Council
Contingency fund from the 1999 and the year 2000. He noted this option is not included in this
Resolution stating it can be added.
Mayor Shiely stated they can continue to discuss but she is looking for a motion on the first
Resolution.
Council Member Hale stated he is ready to make the motion noting there is still an issue in the first
Reso�ution to carry over the Council Contingency. He asked for clarification as to whether this has
been included. He noted his past experience that when it is in the Council Contingency the Council
always knew where that money was and the Council tends to give more direction for that money. He
stated there is value that the Council Contingency reflects the carryover. He moved the resolution
that the Council Contingency carryover be included.
MOTION BY HALE, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-045 ADOPTING 2000
TO 2001 BUDGET CARRYOVERS.
Council Member Wolcott restated his concerns about pulling all the seal coating money stating he
does not want to see all the money moved.
MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Shiely stated this part of the discussion involves adopting a second resolution authorizing the
transfer of$100,000 from the General Fund (100) to the Equipment Replacement Fund (250).
Finance Director Hedberg referenced the information left at each position for this evening's
discussion. He stated the audit is not completed and these are preliminary numbers. He noted they
are not anticipating a significant adjustment to the numbers. He stated the audit opinion will be done
in approximately one and a half months. He stated the results for the year 2000: the revenues were
over budget by approximately $303,000 with $163,000 coming from investment earnings. He stated
the year was not extraordinary but that the budget was very conservative. He stated they need to
adjust investments to market value at the year noting it is prudent to have a conservative budget for
investment earnings. He noted $91,000 was under budgeted intergovernmental revenues that were
not anticipated and $38,000 for additional services.
Finance Director Hedberg reviewed the expenditure items with the Council referencing pages finro
through six stating these pages are included with the Financial Statement. He referenced page six
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stating they are approximately $606,000 under budget. He reviewed the program areas and dollar
amounts with the Council that came in under budget. He explained these are all the general fund
programs noting nearly every program area was under budget. He stated $130,000 was unused
contractual services noting the largest portion was legal fees stating they were lower than what had
been budgeted. He stated $272,OOOwas the budget to actual balance in capitol outlay clarifying
$185,000 of this amount was carry over from the previous year for the seal coating. He stated over
$200,000 is from the Council Contingency carryover from 1999 to 2000 He expressed a need to point
out the practice of budget carry forwards, explaining that the 2000 budget will be reduced for each of
these line items noting the budget to actual in the financial statements will not look anything like this
because $200,000 will be moved. He stated the following years' budget will be increased which adds
to the under budget scenario for the year 2001. He stated altogether it results in a General Fund
balance of$6.2 million. He referenced the materials included with the memo details a calculation of
General Fund, Fund Balance, Designations and Reserves that calculates a preliminary amount
available of$897,000 of unreserved, undesignated General Fund balance that would be available for
designation. He stated $436,000 in budget carry forwards was just approved noting the remaining
undesignated General Fund balance would be $461,000.
Finance Director Hedberg stated staff recently reviewed the formal actions taken to set aside monies
to replace the aerial ladder truck. He stated the only formal action they found was $200,000 that was
moved to the Equipment Replacement Fund. He noted there have been workshop discussions but no
formal action. He stated the Resolution is to take $100,000 from the $461,000 and move it to the
Equipment Replacement Fund for future replacement. He stated it is up to the Council to decide the
actual dollar amount if they wish a difference amount.
Mayor Shiely stated this was the original intent.
Chief Kinsey asked for clarification regarding the dollar amount quoted by Finance Director Hedberg.
He asked if the actual figure was $200,000 or$20,000.
Finance Director Hedberg confirmed he quoted in error stating it should be $20,000.
MOTION BY KOHLS, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 01-046
TRANSFERRING $100,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND (100) TO THE EQUIPMENT FUND (250)
FOR THE FUTURE REPLACEMENT OF THE AERIAL LADDER FIRE TRUCK. MOTION CARRIED
5-0.
C. Consider approval of an ordinance rezoninq certain properties with the City of Cottage Grove
to bring them into compliance with the a�proved 2020 Comprehensive Plan.
Community Development Director Kim Lindquist reviewed the proposal with the Council and residents
of Cottage Grove. She stated the rezoning involved three different areas of the City.
She stated this is the next phase of the Comprehensive Plan process involving the implementation of
the Comprehensive Plan noting the state law requires the City bring their zoning ordinance into
compliance with their plan. She referenced materials provided for review explaining the three areas to
be discussed noting the first is in the West Draw, the second is within Old Cottage Grove, and the
third is in the SE portion of the community along Highway 61.
Community Development Director Lindquist referenced Exhibit A for the West Draw area. She stated
the West Draw areas were rezoned to urban reserve in 1996 in response to the previous
ComprehEnsive Plan. She stated as part of the West Draw Task Force recommendations the
concept of an R2.5 zoning district and a urban reserve district were formulated at that time and these
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areas were brought into the urban reserve. She explained these areas were put into a holding pattern
designated as future urban areas noting services were not available at that time. She stated the
zoning ordinance required very large lots in order to discourage development before it was ready.
She stated the urban reserve was one to finrenty and the new proposal is the R2.5 Urban Density
Zoning District that was created from the West Draw Task Force Report. She explained this is the
11,000 square foot lots. She stated this is consistent with the MUSA expansion that was previously
approved in the last Comprehensive Plan review. She noted a change from 1996 is a diagonal cut on
the properties. She stated there has been a large amount of discussion from the Planning
Commission noting the property owners have also had discussions. She stated this portion may not
be able to be served by gravity sewer and stated they want to try to clarify the line is not hard and fast
from a zoning perspective. She stated when they are ready to begin development and the utility work
begins they would do a utility review based on pipe and site elevation.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated the second area being considered is the Old
Cottage Grove area. She referenced a discussion of Terry Redman's property in reference to issues
around nonconforming properties in the City that were used as residential but were zoned
commercial. She stated there is a Comprehensive Plan process stating this proposal is an attempt to
remove the residential properties that are nonconforming by zoning amendment out of the
commercial designation. She stated this is consistent with the land uses currently in this area noting
they are keeping the properties that are designated commercial B2, in the Comprehensive Plan as
commercial.
Community Development Director Lindquist reviewed Exhibit C with the Council stating this is also a
portion of the implementation of City's Comprehensive Plan. She stated these are areas that these
areas were previously designated commercial stating the zoning changes bring it into conformance.
She referenced property that was considered a part of the 61 Marine review acknowledging this will
probably be turned over to commercial and was changed to a 62 designation. She stated many of the
items were previously discussed noting this is the next step in bringing these properties into
compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. She referenced the minutes noting John McCool received
calls from property owners inquiring about being included in the rezoning process. Community
Development Director Lindquist explained these sites were not included in the Comprehensive Plan
review stating the property owners need to come forward and apply through the normal planning
process. She stated they did notify all of the property owners affected by the rezoning and properties
within 500' of the proposed rezoning properties.
Mayor Shiely stated they have three requests from the audience to speak. She noted that if others
want to speak, to come forward.
Ronald Reiman, Sr., 6120 Hadley Avenue South, Cottage Grove, stated people, firms and governing
bodies all have principles to guide their decisions, however, the catch is we hold those principles. He
noted we often surrender our values or ignore them due to inertia. He stated he would like to offer two
examples of planning values specific to the West Draw. He referenced the current 2020
Comprehensive Plan and West Draw Task Force report quoting sections from each document as it
relates to the original commitment for protection of the natural resources, wild life habitats and the
rural areas of West Draw. He stated rural estate developments are dominate in West Draw noting
that in the future they need to be sensitive to the environment. He stated it is difficult to find any
reference to this commitment in the Comprehensive Plan noting he was unable to find anything that
includes this sentiment. He stated plans have not worked to preserve a unique natural asset so much
as it appears to meet the demands of developers referencing the decision for placement of a costly
pipeline into difficult terrain. He stated they have been backing into a process that compromises the
essential environmental attractions and integrity of the area through piecemeal actions. He
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referenced the process stating residents who feel threatened instead of protected by zoning tend to
give up and move from the area. He stated this brings in new owners, noting many are absentee
owners, with little stake in the area. He stated that now, at the final, most critical stage of
development for West Draw, the development of this unique area is the real test to see if we mean
what is said about our principles. The Council stated it is impossible to envision how the proposed
zoning, before this evening, could be consistent with these values. He asked the Council what is the
responsible path to development. He suggested the Council return the proposal to staff for rework
according to the following two tenants: 1. That the remaining treed, hilly areas of the West Draw be
designated for eventuat zoning of_no more than one home per five acres thus preserving the heart of
the remaining unique area. 2. That the properties adjacent to this area be developed with graduated
lot size ranging from an acre and a half to R2.5 constituting a transition to the more open flatland
properties. He stated these guidelines are general in nature and consistent with the principles already
adopted by our City Council. He stated the Planning staff is capable of producing a design that will
incorporate them into a new plan. He stated such a plan would preserve the remaining character of
the neighborhood that residents have been working for a decade to save. He stated it would also be
an example of our decision-makers observing clear principles that they are obliged to uphold in their
actions. He stated they have come a long way in ten years noting much has changed and the
residents have faith they will be true to our principles and uphold the pledge the City has made to its'
residents.
Bob Hudnut, 7145 65th Street, Cottage Grove, stated many in the West Draw respectfully suggest
any decision to rezone the urban area is premature and should not be acted upon tonight. He
believes it is premature because a.) It was never intended to rezone the urban reserve at this early
date. b.) No environmental impact statement has been done c.) No fiscal impact statement has been
done determining what the cost will be to the city in services versus the punitive revenue in taxes d.)
The rezoning suggestion before the Council tonight has not been fully discussed and thought through
by the community and planning staff noting that part of the Comprehensive Plan is to promote public
participation and discussion. He stated a brief hearing is not enough discussion that involves the
issues of rezoning that will forever alter the character of a neighborhood. He asked why the planning
of the city is held exclusively for the planning staff and developers. He noted residents are rarely
invited to participate during the staffldeveloper process. He respectfully suggested from now on all
meetings befinreen planning staff and developers, at conceptual and other critical stages, involve
neighborhood participation and that the neighborhood be invited to participate through the same
system of letters that is used at the time of a public hearing. He stated it is not good planning to plan
without full citizen participation every step of the way noting it is their lives that are affected too often
by what others have planned for them. Mr. Hudnut noted that it is also one of the goals of the
Comprehensive Plan to enhance the image of the City. He respectfully suggested that rezoning to
R2.5 would not enhance the image of the City because it could jam up to 1,075 homes in this area at
four per acre and create a virtual city within the city. He stated that it is argued that R2.5 allows
densities of one to four homes per acre stating there is no assurance with this zoning that there would
ever be one or two homes per acre. He stated the planning staff, not the community, is planning a
density of three homes per acre that would mean 806 new homes. Mr. Hudnut stated it is also argued
that a certain number of R2.5 homes is needed to support extension of sewer and water stating this
argument has not been costed out. He stated the residents have not seen figures supporting the
need for an R2.5 density. He stated the West Draw, according to the Task Force Report is a "unique
area of the community" and he suggested they proceed with sensitivity before launching into
rezoning. Mr. Hudnut asked the Council to consider what 800 houses would do to the uniqueness and
to consider other areas before making any decisions. He referenced Council Member Wolcott stating
the West Draw has always been designated as an area of the City for higher end homes. He stated
crowding 800 homes would not make for higher end housing. Mr. Hudnut stated even having a variety
of housing choices to attract a variety of people to our City is a most desirable goal. He suggested
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that what would be consistent with uniqueness of the area and with the desire for higher end housing,
is R2 zoning for a larger portion of the 274 acres than the current suggestion of finro percent. He
stated the City zoning regulations indicate, quoting 11-9-b3, R2 is intended to represent areas which
because of rugged, wooded terrain are well suited to high value housing of very low densities stating
1.5 acres. Mr. Hudnut stated this area of West Draw is such an area. He further noted the Task Force
promises that in the future emphasis must continue to be placed on development that is sensitive to
the environment and adjacent land uses, such as the land uses suggested by Mr. Reiman. He
suggested a new zoning classification, R2.25, which would be one or finro houses per acre stating this
new classification that would be appropriate for the land usage adjacent to R2 and before moving on
to R2.5 which is appropriate for some of the area but not 98% which is the proposal before you. Mr.
Hudnut referenced the West Draw Task Force Report stating the residential development shall be
designed and located where there will be minimal impact from adjacent non-compatible land uses. He
stated the adoption of the R2.25 zoning would give the tool for such graduated land use in our
community. He referenced the report's vision statement noting new housing that borders existing
housing is to be on similar sized or graduated sized lots. He suggested the community and staff could
come up with an R2.5 zoning for a percentage of the area with the rest continued in urban reserve
while the process is being watched to determine densities. Mr. Hudnut suggested the appropriate
zoning for the rest of the area can be determined in due course. He stated the proposal tonight is in
disagreement with the top four items in the West Draw Task Force Report. He stated in conclusion
this property, one of the last pristine areas of Cottage Grove, deserves better than the 98% of R2.5.
He asked the Council not to rezone, step back and take a longer look, with full public participation and
discussion, of this unique area of our fair City.
Walter Lager, 7115 So. 65th Street, Cottage Grove, stated he had a number of things to say but will
be short. He stated his perspective on this issue, referencing a statement made by a former staff
person long ago and suggested it would be wise to ask or survey the populace regarding this issue.
Mr. Lager suggested to the Council that they keep this perspective as they make their consideration.
Peter Thompson, 6888 65th Street, Cottage Grove, acknowledged the discussions as to why we
shouldn't do things noting he is one of the largest property owners in the area and had assumed the
Comprehensive Plan was basically completed. He stated his concern is a triangle of land that is too
low to be served by City sewer because of the elevation and asked if he could get City water to the
area for development. He stated the staff and Council have done a good job and he is very happy
with the present zoning from the Comprehensive Plan.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated she had explained to Mr. Thompson that gravity is
not an issue with water and that the issue would be financial for the developer because they maybe
rural lots and it could be costly to extend the sewer lines to the individual lots noting they would have
to be able to meet those costs noting. Staff is not opposed to having rural lots that have the ability to
access public infrastructure as long as there were no cost implications to the City.
Mary Dahlin, 7530 65th Street, Cottage Grove, stated she lives just down the road from the proposed
rezoning. She stated she was not aware that this area was going to be rezoned for such high-density
housing. She stated she has addressed the Council many times noting she has lived in the area for
approximately 20 years and pays approximately$4,000 a year in property taxes. She stated the West
Draw is a unique, lovely area of Cottage Grove noting it does not serve in the community's best
interest to develop it into high density housing. She stated it is unique in that it is still rural in a vastly
developing area and should remain this way. She stated she is not opposed to houses but believes
they should be on acreage rather than urban lots in order to maintain the unique character of this
area and stated she wants to make sure the Council understand this.
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Jeff Podall, 8818 Grosspoint Avenue South, Cottage Grove, stated he has been a Planning
Commission member for eight years and is also a member of the West Draw Task Force. He
expressed concerns over some of the things he heard this evening noting that Mr. Reiman was a
member of the Task Force and Mr. Hudnut sat in on several of the meetings. He stated when the
Task Force put a lot of the property into urban reserve, they were looking at when City services were
available. He noted the PUD situation mentioned by Mr. Hudnut, stating the Task Force did look at
this issue very long and hard. He stated that from the perspective of the Planning Commission and
the West Draw Task Force, once you are in this situation you can preserve some of the natural
amenities by clustering. He noted that clustering would create a higher density in some areas but
would preserve the majority of the natural amenities that are unique to the area.
Julie Schenk 6969 65th Street, Cottage Grove, stated that based on what she heard tonight she has
noticed the developers are building high density housing around the edges of the area. She stated
they are not developing some of the middle areas noting they are building townhomes 30-feet from
her property boundary. Ms. Schenk stated the private landowners in this area are selling the lots to
the developers. She noted the private landowners end up losing their privacy and the developer ends
up saving a lot of money on pipes, roads, and not having to remove as many trees. She asked, since
they are bordering the edge of the property, what will happen in the future when this property
develops. She noted the arguments that could ensue due to the type of development being done in
these areas. Ms. Schenk stated the developers are not providing their own trees and space. The PUD
is great if the open land is owned by the developer. But if the developer is going around the border
developing and using existing private land owners' undevetoped land for his open space, this will
cause problems in the future. She stated the residents are asking for some type of transition or buffer
zone so this is smoother process. She stated she hopes the planning staff and Council will consider
this issue.
Tim Reiman, 6100 Hadley Avenue South, Cottage Grove, stated he moved to Cottage Grove
approximately one year ago from a PUD development in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He clarified his
understanding of PUD and comparing it between Michigan and Minnesota noting a fifth of an acre lot,
ten-foot spacing between homes, natural amenities, 1-3 trees which is a far cry from what they have
now in the West Draw area.
Mayor Shiely restated to the audience that the Council is considering approval of an ordinance
rezoning certain properties within Cottage Grove to bring them into compliance with the 2020
Comprehensive Plan.
Council Member Hale asked for clarification on Exhibit B in reference to the proposed MUSA line
asking if it was or was not in the present MUSA. He asked if they needed to petition or if it was
automatically included because of the Comprehensive Plan. He stated he was on the Council when
the term urban reserve was first used stating it referenced a holding pattern knowing that at some
point the land would be developed. He noted that by placing the MUSA, people would realize the area
was urban and eventually developed. He asked if any of the identified property owners in question
requested exemption from this rezoning. He stated that he was not here for the approva� of the
Comprehensive P�an but was present for the approval of the West Draw Task Force and the zoning
of this area, noting he did vote for the Comprehensive Plan at that time.
Council Member Hale stated that when the idea was developed the Council was very sensitive to
those residents who have the larger tracts of property that are referred to as rural estates ensuring
they did not infringe or require them to opt into a MUSA expansion or to pay costs associated with the
development but to maintain their quality of life. He asked if this was still true today. He referenced
the environmental sensitive overlay in the approved comprehensive plan stating it appears to be
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reflective of the commitment of the Comprehensive Plan to the environmentally sensitive areas in
West Draw did ask for clarification if the information came from the Natural Resource Inventory. He
noted $40,000 was spent to do a complete resource inventory of the City, noting it is a very detailed
document used by the planning staff as a guide with developers regarding zoning changes or
development purposes. Council Member Hale stated this shows the City is committed to preserve
these areas. He stated this document does identify these areas in the West Draw which are currently
zoned as R2 or R1, urban estate development. He stated they have not taken areas defined through
this document as environmentally sensitive areas and made attempts to develop beyond the rural
character. He stated his remarks are not to imply support or non-support of the zoning but to review
the City history. He stated the idea of the R2.5 zoning is as a result of the Task Force in trying to
create a buffer between rural areas and the more highly developed areas noting the City is trying to
be responsive to residents in these areas.
Council Member Hale referenced a guide that states R2.5 can have one to four houses noting it is
impossible to put one to four houses in an R2.5 zone per acre stating it would probably be three or
less. He stated you cannot get four due to the zoning of R2.5 as it requires 11,000 square feet for a
lot and there is 43,580 feet in an acre and would be impossible to comply. He stated the market
supports larger lot sizes. He stated that at the beginning of reviewing development options in The
West Draw engineer was very sensitive to making a commitment cost wise in terms of trying to build
a sewer infrastructure system that would not be so expensive that it would drive the development
costs so high that people would not develop the area. He stated the areas the engineer had to work
with had a very mixed zoning. Council Member Hale stated the engineer was trying to build a system
that would be paid by those users, while trying to build a system that would accommodate their needs
and keep costs down. He stated that the rural people who wanted their property maintained as rural
meant they could not expand the infrastructure to accommodate them at a future time because others
would have to bear the costs, noting the engineer was working against a very tough schedule.
Council Member Hale stated there is a real problem if there is no consistency in holding true to the
zoning. He noted the zoning is based on the infrastructure for the sewer and asked City Engineer
Bourdon to clarify. He referenced a statement that sewers drive the development stating he believes
the City and developers drive the development. He noted the MUSA line was developed by the
citizens stating this is how they want the City to grow.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated it was noted during the Comprehensive Plan
update staff included the MUSA expansion. She stated if they had not been doing the
Comprehensive Plan, they would have to go to the Metropolitan Council separately and to go
through a plan amendment to bring the MUSA in. She stated that since they were doing the comp
plan now it would be reasonable to bring this MUSA in now. She stated none of the property owners
contacted them with regard to taking the property out of the R2.5 zoning. She stated they were very
much aware of the plan.
Mayor Shiely asked Council Member Hale to clarify what he meant by it being impossible to have four
houses per acre. Council member Hale explained the minimum of sizes and consistent unit densities.
City Engineer Jerry Bourdon clarified to Council Member Hale that the lower density would mean
fewer people to pay for the infrastructure. He stated the engineering assumptions were conservative
and the current process has stayed true to the assumptions.
Council Member Kohls asked as to when it was decided to be rezoned to R2.5. She stated she has
reviewed her notes from the various meetings and workshops in addition to reviewing minutes of
meetings and does not see anything specific that states the zoning is to be changed. She stated it
was noted in the Comprehensive Plan update that this was being added. She requested a copy of the
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plan and asked for points of reference, streets that would be recognized, to show where the 200
acres is located on the map. Council Member Kohls asked if some of the land is held by developers
noting some of the lots are owned by US Homes. She asked when they foresee development taking
place in West Draw area and if any developers have come in with ideas or plans for this property.
She stated her concerns are about the density issue referencing the one to four. Council Member
Kohls stated that in past development it will be whatever maximum they can get onto every acre. She
asked what kind of density is being discussed and for clarification between two units per acre or three
and one half units per acre.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated many of the maps in the Comprehensive Plan
illustrates the MUSA line. She stated her agreement with Council Member Kohls that no one
specifically identified the areas to be rezoned and reviewed the locations with the Council. She stated
she is not aware of any transactions taking place but did acknowledge there are interested parties
and they have received calls. She verified that US Homes does own some of the land. She stated the
area to the west would be served by the sanitary sewer line that will be going through the Pine
Summit project, the Orrin Thompson project that is currently under construction. She stated the sewer
line has not been extended all the way to 65th noting this is dependent on the build out of the Orrin
Thompson project. Community Development Director Lindquist stated in the eastern section the City
will be extending sewer and water to the school site located on the south side of 65�h noting water will
be in 65`h and the sewer line will be running up to the school site and possibly beyond. She stated this
could be fairly soon as the completion date for the school timetable is scheduled for May 2002.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated the guide plan is one to four units per acre. She
stated the criteria the developer has to meet noting the zoning ordinance for the R2.5 is 11,000
square feet. She stated this comes directly from the recommendation of the West Draw Task Force.
She explained that the PUD is a good tool and does not necessarily increase density. Community
Development Director Lindquist stated one of the requirements of the PUD is that the applicant
actually shows a yield plan that shows the amount of lots they can obtain under the straight zoning
noting this is the basis they use in discussion. She stated in some instances where development is
easier, they could get finro units per acre. She stated there are several areas that are difficult to
develop and the projects that have been approved have all been under two units per acre.
Community Development Director Lindquist referenced the Centex project, noting land dedication,
was under two units and stated the Solberg Plat on the southside of 70th was significantly under the
finro units per acre. She stated that due to topography, overhead lines, and park dedication that the
City has requested, they will probably not see the four per acre but would be closer to the two or
three per acre.
Mayor Shiely asked for clarification regarding overall density and referenced the Centex property.
She also asked if the discussion referred to clusters and included the pipe.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated the Centex parcel was 177 acres with 205 lots
proposed. She stated this was a part of the original and overall density noting it included the pipe.
Council Member Wolcott referenced the residential zoning in the Code of Cottage Grove used to say
the minimum lot size 7,500 square foot. He stated when they went into this area they came up with a
new zoning which is the R2.5 which states that the City wanted to create larger lots with higher end
housing. He stated the minimum lot size went from 7,500 to 11,000 square feet and minimum lot
width went to 85 feet. He stated it was brought up to show an area in Cottage Grove that developed
higher than the allowed density. He referenced Sandy Hills noting they were allowed a 7,500 square
foot but there is not a lot that is less than 10,000 square feet and are lots as large as 12,000 square
feet. He expressed his concerns with the possibility of developers coming into this area and
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squeezing in as many lots as possible. He stated the reason they went to the R2.5 was to increase
the minimum lot size. He acknowledged developers will come in and try to place as many units as
possible noting this would still need to go through the planning staff, the Planning Commission and
the City Council for the review and approval process.
Mayor Shiely stated that a comment was made earlier that the pipeline does not determine the
development noting they just found out the impetus for the development of the western property
comes because services will be available through the Pine Summit development. She stated the
impetus for the other site is because services will be brought to the new school. She asked
Community Development Director Lindquist for clarification regarding the rezoning request.
Community Development Director Lindquist clarified this is really not the true reason. She stated the
real reason for this discussion is because they just updated the Comprehensive Plan. She stated they
could have waited finro to three years keeping the property in reserve but they did not want to go
through the process again. She stated public hearings and neighborhood meetings were held and
noted it seemed appropriate to bring it in.
Mayor Shiely stated she has been involved from the beginning and wanted to see the West Draw
maintain its rural character. She acknowledged the enjoyment of the atmosphere by residents and
visitors alike. She referenced two lectures she gave today at Park High School about Cottage Grove.
She stated the most common question asked by the students is what are you doing as the Mayor and
as a Council to preserve Cottage Groves' unique rural character. She stated she supported the West
Draw Task Force and still does. She stated she is no longer happy with what is happening in the
West Draw since it is no longer what the West Draw Task Force was looking for. She stated that
urban reserve meant it was much farther out than two years since the Comprehensive Plan had been
adopted noting she thought urban reserve was out in the future. She stated she believed this was
going to be an orderly development and that urban reserve was in the future. She referenced the new
school. She stated she is still uncertain about the R2.5 zoning issue. She stated she lives in an R4
zoning, noting most residents are in an R4 zone. She stated this is called low density residential and
most of the City is R4. Mayor Shiely clarified that low density is one to four per acre. She stated she
doesn't understand why at some point, during the development of the R2.5 zoning, it wasn't changed.
She clarified her understanding that this is land use and rezoned for only four units to an acre, noting
they are only 500 square feet short of having four on an acre. She stated there is no time in the future
when the Council will be told that because they are clustering and not taking the same amount of
roads and acreage as we would for a normal development that they can have four per acre in a R2.5
zoning. She asking if they truly thought no one would come and ask for the four per acre.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated the Comprehensive Plan has all single family,
urban development listed as one to four units per acre. She noted the zoning has performance
standards which set different lot sizes.
Council Member Wolcott clarified that a fourth of an acre would be removed from the size due to
easements and roads. He stated they would not be able to have four units per acre. He stated that
there is a minimum lot size and width noting the street and right of way needs to be considered. He
noted they would have to go through the process to request and would need to look at the overall
density of the acreage. He stated the minimum lot sizes, minimum lot width, streets, and right of way
would need to be considered and four per acre would not work.
Mayor Shiely questioned why they bothered with urban reserve when the West Draw Task Force was
already looking at these issues. She stated she has concerns regarding transitions and
acknowledged they include the West Draw, the industrial along Ideal, the Industrial Park versus the
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homes on Heath Avenue, and the homes along Hadley. She asked why we can't zone buffers noting
she can foresee conflicts in the future because this issue is not being addressed clearly. She stated
they are told the Council can zone buffers yet it always ends up with the Council not being able to do
it. She stated she does not see a buffer being provided in the West Draw and the residents do have a
valid point. She stated she would have liked to have something in the Comprehensive Plan that would
indicate when they are going from R2.5 to R2. She stated she is concerned that they are not getting
the kind of development they had hoped for stating she is not sure how to go about finding the right
developer. She stated she is frustrated but is not trying to undermine the work the Task Force has
done. She stated she would like to see the West Draw as something unique noting she has not seen
any signs of the changes they have discussed. She stated there is a need to discuss this.
Mayor Shiely stated she is concerned about the existing infrastructure and whether it can handle what
is developing, noting it may be developing faster than they had previously planned. She asked why
are they being faced with this now as she had the understanding that urban reserve was 20 years out
in planning.
Council Member Kohls stated she recollected the urban reserve was 20 years out and that this would
fill in when it was time to extend the MUSA line. She recalled looking at a map and discussing urban
reserve that extends as far as Woodbury. She asked what is left of the urban reserve and when this
was established.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated there maybe some confusion noting the
Metropolitan Council uses urban reserve and is post 2020. She stated the only thing that would be
zoned as urban reserve in the City is the Hardwood Corridor. She stated this was based on the 1996
rezonings related to the West Draw Task Force. The City had devised their own urban reserve
zoning prior to the Met Council Blueprint using Urban Reserve as a land use tool.
Council Member Hale noted it was his understanding the Council had made this decision referencing
the creation of the new MUSA line. He asked why they would want to extend the MUSA line into an
area that is zoned R2 or acre and half lots.
Mayor Shiely clarified she voted against the extension
Council Member Kohls asked where in the City a presently zoned R2 area is located where someone
can go to build a home. She stated she is confused with the colors and the land use. She noted some
of the areas reviewed are not yet developed.
Community Development Director Lindquist clarified that this is a 2020 draw noting that some of the
green areas are R2 zoning. She reviewed the sections in the West Draw stating that rural residential
is R1, R2 or an AG designation which is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan in terms of
permanent rural residential. She reviewed the zoning areas on the map with the Council.
Council Member Kohls asked if, as the West Draw fully develops as per zoning, the City is set up to
handle the densities and people with the infrastructure at no cost to the City.
City Engineer Bourdon stated that from an engineering standpoint, the way it is set up now the City
would be able to service the land use plan at the kind of densities they expect would happen. He
noted the ranges of units you can have in any one project are very great, one to four units or even
five to ten units, and this could cause concern. He stated if you talk with the planners about the way
the development is likely to happen, you will have two units per acre for single family development
and the capacity is there to handle it.
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Council Member Hale clarified that the stub to handle this was put in twenty years ago. He asked any
consideration was given at that time as to why it was built to the constrained size it was built. He
asked if the school would be served by the West Draw.
City Engineer Bourdon confirmed the stub was installed twenty years ago. He recalled some
conversations he had with individuals who explained the process to him. He stated the way the City
would develop has changed referencing that in 1992 to 1994 you could not go into the West Draw
area and develop high density because at that time there was a capacity issue. He stated the school
would be served by the West Draw.
MOTION BY KOHLS, SECONDED BY SHIELY, TO TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION
MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (WOLCOTT).
Mayor Shiely stated a workshop would be set up for further discussion. She asked that City Engineer
Bourdon also attend.
Mayor Shiely called a five-minute break at 9:46 p.m.
Mayor Shiely called the meeting back to order at 9:57 p.m.
D. Consider denial of a variance to Title 11-15-8C, Mississippi River Corridor Overlay District
Bluff line setback requirements, to allow construction of a swimming pool at 11931 Lofton
Avenue South.
Mayor Shiely stated the applicant is requesting a variance to allow construction of an in-ground pool
on the property at 11931 Lofton Avenue. The variance is from the critical area standards for bluff
setbacks. The setback requirement is 100 feet and the proposal is for a 29-foot setback. Staff was
remiss in noting within the staff report than an aboveground pool had previously been located on the
property, in the same general location. There is no record of a variance being granted for the
aboveground pool.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated staff is recommending denial for several reasons
stating the main reason for denial is that the property is very constrained. She noted the number of
variances already approved for the property and asked how many variances the City wants to grant.
She stated a pool is a general luxury and is not something typical that would occur on a property.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated that by approving a variance request like this it will
generate similar requests in the future. She stated the Department of Natural Resources and the
Planning Commission do not support this project.
Paul C. Runze, 11931 Lofton Avenue, Cottage Grove, stated he did not move here with the original
thought of installing a pool but did look at the property with the thought of eventually putting in a pool.
He acknowledged that in looking at the lot plan, it does appear that the proposed location is about 30-
feet from the original line. He stated it would be 15-feet from the back property line. He noted that the
property backs up to a coolie stating this land is not suitable for development. He acknowledged the
number of variances approved for this property, noting an above ground pool had been on this
property at one time. Mr. Runze stated there were three variances granted, noting the first in 1983 for
the construction of the main structure, the second in 1986 was due to first expiring, and third was for
the construction of a garage. He noted the size of the lot stating it is very wooded. He stated they had
considered other options that included putting the pool in the front yard but that would require a
different variance and he does not want a pool in the front yard. He explained that the pool would not
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be visible to other residents or from the river. He stated he does not understand why this has been
recommended for denial.
Council Member Wolcott asked about the possibility of placing the pool in the front yard and inquired
about the trees. He asked for clarification on the land behind his property
Floyd Ott, 11865 W. Point Douglas, clarified the type of pool installed. He noted to the Council the
similarities and precedence with a property located at 11370 Kingsborough Trail. He stated logic
should prevail noting it would enhance the owner's property. He asked the Council how it would
adversely affect the property restating the low visibility from the river and credibility of the owner. He
clarified the property behind the owner was a ravine noting the hardship issue would fall under the
practical issue condition.
Council Member Kohls asked about the criteria they are required to meet in order to grant a variance.
She noted Mr. Ott was correct with respect to the variance that was issued for 11370 Kingsborough
Trail. She stated she understood the staff concerns noting the recommendations from staff and the
variances previously granted for this property. She acknowledged the visual issue and the fact it
would not be a problem.
Community Development Director Lindquist stated the requirement criteria are listed in the staff
report section and referred the Council to this section for review.
Mayor Shiely stated the rational for the pool was a visual issue noting it was not intrusive from the
river.
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 01-XXX
APPROVING A VARIANCE FROM TITLE 11-15-8C, MISSISSIPPI RIVER CORRIDOR OVERLAY
DISTRICT BLUFF LINE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A
SWIMMING POOL 29.6 FEET FROM THE ESTABLISHED RIVER BLUFF LINE AT 11931 LOFTON
AVENUE SOUTH, AND DIRECT STAFF TO SUPPORT THE VARIANCE BASED ON THE FACT
THAT THE PROPERTY IS RESTRAINED, THE SITUATION IS UNIQUE, AND NO THERE IS NO
VISUAL IMPACT. MOTION CARRIED 4-1 (RICE).
E. Adopt Final 2001-2006 Capital Improvement Plans.
Mayor Shiely stated Item E is the item Council Member Kohls requested be removed to from the
Consent Agenda. She clarified Council Member Kohls intent to request this item be tabled for further
discussion.
Council Member Kohls stated she would like to meet with the City Administrator and the Finance
Director to ask questions.
MOTION BY HALE, SECONDED BY KOHLS, TO TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION. MOTION
CARRIED 5-0.
RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
NONE
COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
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Council Member Hale noted the Memorial Bridge linking the main land is under water and also the
causeway. He expressed his appreciation and those of residents for their support and assistance in
ferrying across from the island. He stated this is the third highest flood noting five major floods in the
last 35 years and three in the last 8 years. He stated the thought had crossed his mind as to what
could possibly be done if there were 600 houses on the island versus the nine. He also noted that
Aggregate Industries also contributed to the aid of the residents on the island. He thanked the Fire
Department for their assistance during this time.
Mayor Shiely acknowledged Council Member Hale's wife in the audience. She asked the Council for
suggestions for the Great Grove Get-Together. She stated the committee has asked the Council to
come up with a challenge for other City Councils and their mayors. She asked the Council their
thoughts on a tug of war. Mayor Shiely asked the staff to develop a letter to the City Councils for St.
Paul Park, Newport and Woodbury, indicating that Cottage Grove was not very good at horseshoes
but is very good at tug of war. She clarified they want the challenge to be visual for the attendees.
Council Member Wolcott suggested golf, bochee ball, or volleyball. He suggested tabling this for
further discussion.
Council Member Hale was excused from the meeting.
Council Member Kohls noted an article in the At Home section of the St. Paul Pioneer Press
regarding senior housing. She stated senior housing is something the community needs. She noted
the Human Services Commission has been working on this issue. She stated she would like to ask
for a report from the staff that would provide potential areas for development. Identify them, identify
the issues and begin to resolve and move forward with the possibility of a retirement community.
She stated she met with a architect to discuss possibilities for enhancement of the Grove Plaza Mall
and reviewed the results of the conversation with the Council. She shared a few of the examples for
mall renovations with the intent to generate thoughts and discussion. She referenced the Architectural
Design Guidelines noting this has been discussed. She stated this needs to be upgrade and
recommended further discussion with the Architect. She stated Kathy Anderson, architect, will be
contacting the rest of the Council to set up meetings to review her ideas for the City of Cottage
Grove.
PAY BILLS
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY KOHLS, TO APPROVE PAYMENT OF CHECK
NUMBERS 118227 TO 118449 TOTALING $652,267.50. MOTION CARRIED 5-0.
Mayor Shiely stated they would now move to the Workshop session noting it is open to the public.
She stated the workshop discussion involves an update on the neighborhood meetings. She stated
they would then move to a closed workshop session, noting this will be closed to the public as they
will be discussing a personnel issue.
WORKSHOP SESSION —OPEN
A. Thompson Grove Pavement Management Project
Mayor Shiely stated she was very impressed and pleased that the Task Force is in existence and has
presently held finro meetings. She stated she is impressed and pleased with the progress.
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Public Works Director Burshten stated there has been progress. He noted the two meetings held in
March noting they have established a committee that consists of five people, Bonnie Fritz, Kathleen
Kline, Gordon Jenson, John Thorkildson and Jeff Bedault. He stated the two meetings held in March
were enough to accomplish several issues. He stated this is an update noting the preview that shows
what can be expected at the next neighborhood meeting May 15th, 7:00 p.m., at the National Guard
Armory. He stated the Task Force did a good job noting they got out and polled the neighbors and
brought back some good viewpoints. He noted they seemed favorable and stated they do not foresee
any problems.
Jeff Podall, 8818 West Grosspoint Avenue South, Cottage Grove, confirmed the meetings and the
effort of the Task Force to poll their neighbors. He stated they received very positive response from
the residents stating the question most frequently asked was how soon they can do this noting they
are very tired of the condition of the roads. He stated there were very few concerns raised. He noted
some of the issues identified included the length of time it takes to turn the assessments, payback
time for extensions, and the sidewalks around the Cottage Square area. He stated they expressed
the desire to keep with the existing sidewalks that lead to the Great Hamlet Trail area. He stated a
need to look at more of the sidewalk areas noting there were areas that aren't too easily serviceable
by the snow plow equipment. Mr. Bedault stated most of what is in the feasibility report should be
doable. He stated everyone was in favor of it as long as everything stays status quo with the
pavement management that has been done and the costs associated with it are paid by the 2% for
total reconstruction he does not see any major problems.
Mayor Shiely stated that it was her understanding that in previous pavement management
discussions, the staff had come up with an informal policy as it relates to the sidewalks. She stated
they would not retrofit the sidewalks unless a certain percentage of the neighbors requested the
retrofit.
Council Member Wolcott clarified that the policy states that if there is a sidewalk in place it would be
replaced. He stated they are not planning to do sidewalks replacements unless they are petitioned by
the neighborhood requesting it be looked at. He stated he was not sure whether this was a formal
policy but is what was done in the Hillside neighborhood. He stated they did a survey of the neighbors
in the Hillside neighborhood noting the results came back stating the residents did not want the new
sidewalks.
Council Member Kohls stated this clarification totally counters what happened on Hillside, noting the
number of signatures they received on a petition. She asked for clarification on the requirements or
numbers of signatures stating she did vote for the sidewalk enhancements.
Mayor Shiely stated they determined that the people who would be affected are the voices they would
listen to. She stated this would be considered based on what the people on that street want. She
stated the report addressed the concerns of the neighbors with respect to the widening of the road
and how it would affect their yards. She stated the City owns a certain amount and would be taken
from a City easement and not their yards. She stated sidewalks would be a different story especially if
they widen the roads. Mayor Shiely stated she did not want to get into a discussion on sidewalk
issues. It was her understanding a policy was in place and if there isn't, a discussion needs to take
place to establish policy.
Mr. Podall stated they steered clear of the sidewalk issues noting that adding new sidewalks were the
responsibility of the City. He stated they did discuss existing sidewalks that did need to be replaced.
He noted the sidewalk that goes from 84`h Street into Cottage Grove Square are used often. He noted
the two entrances to Cottage Square in addition to the sidewalk by The New Moon that dumps out to
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the street. Mr. Bedault noted the other sidewalks in question are the sidewalks from Grenadier down
Grange to Hadley which are only 3-feet wide, there are power poles, and they extend into people's
yards. He stated they are used but at this point they would need to be wider in order for Public Works
to be able to clean them. He stated they definitely did not want to touch to the subject of new
sidewalks. He stated this would be dealt with at the neighborhood meeting if the subject were brought
up.
Mayor Shiely stated they did add sidewalks to the Hillside school and in some of the pavement
management areas noting the question of retrofitting into areas that have been there for 35 years.
Council Member Kohls stated she did vote in favor of sidewalks on Hitlside noting she has not
changed her philosophy.
Dave Hanson, consultant for Bonestroo consulting engineering firm, stated he attend both meetings
and there was a lot of great input. He noted a list has been started with issues that will need to be
addressed in the feasibility report. He stated it is their hope that they will receive further input at the
neighborhood meeting scheduled on May 15ih. He referenced the project schedule that was
presented to the Council in December and that the direction was to step back, get a committee
established, and hold a neighborhood meeting. He stated at that point they would proceed with the
feasibility report. Mr. Hanson stated this is still the plan. He stated that following the May 15`h meeting,
the intent is to gather additional field information in order to prepare a better feasibility report that
addresses the existing conditions and has a better handle on costs. He stated this effort will take
through May, June, and July with the hopes that by mid to late summer they will have a feasibility
report they can present to the Council. Mr. Hanson noted the intent of the neighborhood meeting is to
discuss the committee utilizing the same format used in previous years providing a brief overview of
the ideas, existing issues and what to expect when the project is finished.
Public Works Director Burshten stated this is all the information they wanted to present. He
recommended another neighborhood meeting suggesting May 15`h as a possible date. He stated from
this meeting they will proceed with the breakdown of the three areas. He stated the first meeting will
be for everyone noting this will affect 1,100 homes in that area. He stated they are anticipating at
least 10% of residents will be attending the meeting.
Mayor Shiely acknowledged the information in the report was excellent and very comprehensive.
Council Member Wolcott noted the meetings were scheduled on Council nights. He asked for
clarification on two issues. He stated some people want sidewalks and some do not stating there is a
need for a discussion on sidewalks to determine policy. He asked if storm sewers were discussed.
Public Works Director Burshten noted storm sewers were discussed and Dave Hanson and
Bonestroo did put together a map identifying storm sewers that will need to be installed on 85th and
the Grafton area to prolong the life of the road. He ctarified it is like any other project and should be
incurred as a part of the cost of the project and assessed under the finro percent.
Council Member Kohls stated she was left with the impression from previous discussions that there
would be a major storm sewer upgrade but now it sounds like it isn't. She noted this is a concern with
the residents in this area and that an upgrade is needed.
Dave Hanson stated a preliminary layout has been created that outlines what does need to be
upgraded and improved. He stated this layout was based on the work with Public Works and
observations made while driving through the areas. He noted the intersections that are problems
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stating that with further observations they may find further issues. He stated they are expecting
issues at the neighborhood meeting to be raised with respect to drainage. He stated that for the
Thompson Grove area there is $750,000 worth of storm sewer that needs to be addressed. He stated
they have not looked at the detailed list noting that out of the $750,000, $150,000 is marked for
improvement of existing storm sewers.
Public Works Director Burshten noted every project has included an upgrade to the storm sewers. He
stated this is not a lot of money and that to do the entire system would cost a lot more. He stated this
is only problem area that has been addressed over the years. He stated this is a very old area of
Cottage Grove noting the system is now inadequate and the problem areas are being addressed. He
noted a discussion did take place suggesting they do a comparison but this has not yet been done.
City Administrator Schroeder noted that it comes down to approximately $7,700 per household for
project costs and asked how this compared to previous projects. He stated to his recollection the
average is around $6,500 per lot. He stated this is relevant information to share with the public with
regard to actual costs.
Council Member Kohls asked how long the neighborhood advisory committee would remain a
committee and intact. She stated there are twelve people on the committee noting that three of the
committee members are City employees. She suggested adding more citizens to the committee.
Public Works Director Burshten stated the intent is to keep the committee intact for the entire three-
year process. He stated the committee would not be meeting often and they have committed to
attend the first meeting. He stated adding more citizens to the committee would be a plus and they
have already considered including more individuals.
Mr. Bedault restated Public Works Director Burshten's comments with respect to committee
membership noting they did advertise in the Bulletin to get people involved in the Task Force.
Mayor Shiely suggested the letter being sent out to everyone indicate that they are looking at streets
and storm sewer issues.
Dave Hanson stated that in the mailing they could identify in more detail the content of the meeting.
He noted the neighborhood committee asked to review the feasibility report in order to view the
issues. He noted a discussion around the possibilities or need for a separate meeting for Hadley after
completion of the feasibility report. He stated there are three neighborhoods suggesting they have a
separate meeting for the neighbors that abut Hadley to discuss the issues.
Mayor Shiely closed the open workshop at 11:19 p.m.
WORKSHOP SESSION — CLOSED
A. Personnellssues
Present: Mayor Sandy Shiely
Council Member Pat Rice
Council Member Cheryl Kohls
Council Member Jim Wolcott
Absent: Council Member Rod Hale
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Also Present: Ryan Schroeder, City Administrator
Corrine Thompson, City Attorney, Kennedy and Graven
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE TO OPEN THE CLOSED SESSION.
The Council met in closed session, pursuant to the open meeting law, to receive an update from the
City Administrator on personnel issues.
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION AND
RECONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING. MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY KOHLS, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 11:15 P.M.
MOTION CARRIED 4-0.
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