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6/15/2016
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Title of Request
City Council Meeting Minutes - June 1, 2016 Special Meeting
Staff Recommendation
Approve the June 1, 2016 City Council Special Meeting Minutes.
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COTTAGE GROVE CITY COUNCIL June 1 , 2016
ST. CROIX CONFERENCE ROOM
12800 RAVINE PARKWAY SOUTH
SPECIAL MEETING - 6:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The City Council of the City of Cottage Grove, Washington County, Minnesota, held a
Special Meeting on June 1, 2016, at Cottage Grove City Hall, 12800 Ravine Parkway.
Mayor Bailey called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
The following were present: Mayor Myron Bailey, Council Member Steve Dennis,
Council Member Justin Olsen, Council Member Jen Peterson, and Council Member
Dave Thiede.
Also present were: Charlene Stevens, City Administrator; Rebecca Ahlvin, Management
Assistant; Neil Belscamper, Deputy City Clerk; Joe Fischbach, HR Manager/City Clerk;
Jennifer Levitt, Community Development Director/City Engineer; Robin Roland, Finance
Director; Craig Woolery, Public Safety Director.
3. AGENDA ITEMS
A. NovusAGENDA Manager Training
Deputy City Clerk Neil Belscamper gave an overview of NovusAGENDA, which is a new
software product that the City is trying. He went over the process for reviewing items in
preparation for meetings and at the meeting itself.
Council Member Thiede suggested having more summary information on the cover
page rather than having to go into attachments and he would like to see the budget
impact information that had been on the previous cover pages. Administrator Stevens
stated that the cover page can be customized but in the past departments often
included the information in the staff inemo rather than the cover page. She noted this
was a trial of the software to see if there was some efficiency to be gained internally by
staff and end users.
Deputy City Clerk Belscamper confirmed for Mayor Bailey it was a 90-day trial, with the
first month used to do the set up, and it would be used again for the next Council
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Meeting. Mayor Bailey asked what efficiencies have been gained by using the software.
Administrator Stevens stated they were not having to do the paper collating process and
scanning items and that the system could ultimately be used across the board for the
various City Commissions.
Mayor Bailey inquired about the new process. Administrator Stevens stated that the
creator of the document forwards it to her electronically. She reviews it and has the
ability to make comments on any changes she'd like made, and she can send it back to
the creator with those comments for any changes. Once approved it goes straight to
Deputy City Clerk Belscamper to be placed on the agenda.
Deputy City Clerk Belscamper stated that creating items is pretty easy, as the creator
just titles the item, adds the staff recommendation, and uploads attachments. He added
that the intention is for the staff recommendation to be worded in a way that could be
read verbatim as a motion if council concurred with the recommendation. Mayor Bailey
stated that was good because they've had issues with that in the past.
Administrator Stevens stated she likes the ability to look at the agenda ahead of time
and be able to prioritize the items in the correct order. Deputy City Clerk Belscamper
agreed it is easier to change the agenda than it was previously.
Council Member Thiede stated the PDF items are now searchable, which is nice. He
asked how much time is saved in putting the Council packets together. Deputy City
Clerk Belscamper stated, from his perspective, overall the new system is easier to use
and time is saved putting the agenda together and sending the packets out, but more
time is spent on the back end to archive the packet items in the LaserFiche system than
with the current method. He felt the main benefit in the system is that it has functionality
that the old method doesn't, such as the HTML view for Council Members and
Commissioners at meetings, having the ability to add comments and flag items, and
having remote access to the system for department approvers. Without the system, he
said routing items through Laserfiche to get to a truly electronic system with no paper
wouldn't be that difficult to achieve, but the remote access with individual logins, ability
to flag and add comments to items, have linked attachments, and some of the other
features couldn't easily be duplicated.
Council Member Dennis stated that he had had a conversation with Deputy City Clerk
Belscamper about the software, but he wanted to hear from the directors in the room to
get their feedback, if they liked it, what concerns they had, and if it was creating any
challenges, etc.
Director Roland stated she thought it was great and it saved her a lot of time and effort,
and that she doesn't have to print out documents and can just upload them.
Director Woolery felt the same way and thought it was pretty seamless to create
something in Word and submit it, and to be able to get back to it and review it.
Community Development Director/City Engineer Jennifer Levitt stated that since they
produce a large packet, they had some issues to overcome. There were some size
issues that they've had to work through, and some of the dropdown menus need to be
customized. She knew it was taking people on the prep side a little bit longer, and for
that reason she wasn't able to note the efficiency or the balance.
Administrator Stevens asked Director Levitt if she were to be able to upload something
to a planning packet first, and have it just automatically come over, if that would be an
advantage for her and her Department. Director Levitt stated sometimes the
attachments change between the Planning Commission and the City Council, and the
memo itself gets changed, but some of the attachments could be easily converted, and
you could save that upload, because sometimes there are eight or more attachments.
Deputy City Clerk Belscamper stated she could copy an item and then modify it before
it's submitted to a different Commission or to the City Council.
Mayor Bailey asked questions about the search function. Deputy City Clerk Belscamper
stated he knew you could do phrase searches and simple word searches, but added
one thing he'd found when searching large repositories is that these searches often get
a lot of hits unless you're able to search for a very unique keyword or phrase. Mayor
Bailey asked if he saved a comment on a previous Council packet, and went back to
search that packet if that comment would still be in there. Deputy City Clerk
Belscamper stated that was correct because that comment remains under your login.
Council Member Olsen asked what this system did for the Council for transparency
issues if there were public data requests, etc. Deputy City Clerk Belscamper stated the
archive right now for City Council documents is in Laserfiche, which meets the standard
for permanent archival. Since City Council packets are considered permanent
documents under the records retention schedule they have to be in a format that's
permanently accessible. The NovusAGENDA interface with LaserFiche may not
necessarily convert documents into a permanent format such as TIFF or PDF/A and we
haven't gotten a full answer from Novus, but packets can be manually converted to TIFF
documents, imported and separated in LaserFiche. Council Member Olsen asked him
how much time that took. Deputy City Clerk Belscamper replied that today's packet took
him perhaps 15 minutes.
Administrator Stevens stated they will also need to replace some of the iPads, etc., so
one of the products they're looking at is a Chromebook that the Mayor is testing this
evening. Other options will be considered as well.
Administrator Stevens stated they had a few items they could bring back and
recommendations if they're going to proceed with this, or they'll just go back to the way
that they were previously doing it and/or look at any other software that they might want
to try out. Deputy City Clerk Belscamper stated he and Brian Bluhm had spoken to a
couple of other vendors, and NovusAGENDA was the one that they had chosen.
Council Member Thiede stated he has PDF Annotator, so he can just bring up any PDF
document and write on it like it's a piece of paper, which works great.
B. Community Engagement Workshop
Administrator Stevens stated that this item was on tonight's Consent Agenda. Part of
the Strategic Plan was to look at a community engagement process and try to do a
community-wide visioning process. Management Assistant Becky Ahlvin developed a
RFP, which was sent out to four firms; three responded, and those were narrowed down
to two to interview, Craig Rapp, of Minnesota, and NEXT Generation, of Madison,
Wisconsin. The third firm was Novak Consulting, but their price was so much higher for
the same value of work that they were excluded based upon price. Hue Life, who had
actually done the Strategic Planning, did not respond to the RFP. We tried to look at
some other vendors, but also tried to stay somewhat regional with the vendors.
Both of the finalists have good local government experience. The committee who
interviewed them consisted of Administrator Stevens, Management Analyst Becky
Ahlvin, Director Roland, Communications Coordinator Sharon Madsen, and Mayor
Bailey. The committee felt NEXT Generation's engagement was a bit fresher, newer,
updated, and kind of going where the people are, looking at some social media
engagement, different forums for getting people engaged, such as chalkboards, and
there was a sense that maybe we'd get more and different people engaged in the
process. With Craig Rapp, they do the more traditional model including focus groups, a
community survey, "Meeting in a Box" where you'd have to train volunteers to host a
meeting and facilitate the meeting, and then they give that input back.
The recommendation is to proceed with NEXT Generation; the cost of the proposal is
about $54,500 plus $6,000 in expenses. They propose to use the $25,000 that's
budgeted this year toward a traditional survey to go toward that cost, and then we'd also
carry over $25,000 to the 2017 budget. NEXT Generation just did Eagan's plan, and is
also currently doing Minnetonka's plan. Administrator Stevens worked with NEXT
Generation in Willmar, as they did the Willmar Lakes Area's Strategic Plan. Craig Rapp
had worked in Faribault. References on both of them checked out and were both very
good, but the recommendation is to go with NEXT Generation. She stated
Management Assistant Ahlvin would walk through some examples, in addition to what
was in the proposal, of what NEXT Generation can do and why we thought their
engagement was a little bit more vibrant and appealing.
Management Assistant Ahlvin played Eagan's video, which was produced by NEXT
Generation. It expressed Eagan's vision, which they termed "Eagan Forward." It was
directed toward young people, older people, retired people, as well as immigrants, and
included focus groups and a rollout of the Strategic Plan that NEXT Generation would
do. Council Member Thiede asked if the video was a way to try to get more people
knowledgeable about Eagan or involved; Management Analyst Ahlvin stated it was both
as it gave all of the options available in which citizens could participate. Council
Member Thiede asked if it had had any effectiveness with the community. Administrator
Stevens stated her experience with the Willmar Lakes Area was they were able to
engage people, who are now in their third year of being involved. A citizen group
started movies in the park, the citizens have recruited junior hockey into the community.
Eagan probably has some different strategies that they're now working on. What comes
out of it is not only the strategies but how to actually move those strategies forward;
some of those are City driven, some are community driven. Mayor Bailey felt the video
that was shown was more of a recruiting video to try to get people involved, and
Administrator Stevens agreed.
Council Member Thiede felt they'd spent money previously and while some good ideas
came out of the survey, not much actually happened. Director Roland stated there were
two phone surveys done; in 2012, the City spent $12,500, and there were 400 people
who were polled, but it was a much shorter list of questions. In 2007, the City spent
$20,500; there were 154 questions and 400 people polled. The same firm did both, and
the questions in the 2012 survey were more precise regarding parks, a community
center, etc. as the City was more focused on those particular items, but it was a shorter
list of questions.
Council Member Thiede wanted to know what they'd receive as deliverables and the
relative value of that; essentially, the City would be paying at least three times more
than we'd done in the past for NEXT Generation to do the survey, plus other things.
Administrator Stevens advised this would not include a community-wide survey; it's
more of a bottom up process of engaging the community and asking the question, e.g.,
what do you want to see in the City of Cottage Grove in the next 15 years, 20 years?
They would have four community-wide meetings, two other meetings to perhaps reach
populations who were harder to reach, and online engagement. For example, Eagan
had Facebook Friday, where they posted a different question every Friday, and they
used the responses as input. Eagan also used community-wide chalkboards, as did
Willmar, and those were placed around the community. It allowed people to just come
up and write a response to a question; those responses were captured via photo and
synthesized into end themes, etc. Eagan used a similar process but asked a slightly
different question. They took that data and synthesized it into Eagan's plan of what the
strategies were to move forward and roll that out to the public, and some of the video
engagement. She felt with SWCTC, they could do that type of video internally, so they
took that out of the proposal.
Administrator Stevens stated a survey is a snapshot; it will be based upon who
responds to the phone survey. With cellular/mobile phones now, sometimes it's a bit
more challenging to do phone surveys. If they want to engage people a bit more and
then engage them in the community, actually working on some of the strategies and
vision, then this would be the way to do that. She agreed that the cost is high, and they
looked at what the other communities were spending. Eagan spent $60,000 and
Minnetonka is spending $73,000; a few years ago, Faribault, a smaller community,
spent approximately $40,000. Based upon all of the proposals they received, that
amount seems to be the cost for doing this type of work.
Council Member Olsen stated there are also intangible benefits of engaging people of
different backgrounds, ages, and experiences. There is significant benefit, as there is in
a business environment, in finding those pearls of wisdom from the ground up that
oftentimes get missed when you target the same population time and time again, as you
do with a phone survey. He felt this sort of approach is building ambassadors and
advocates in the community that you don't really get with the other approach. People
feel like they're part of something bigger than themselves, which is truly the role of a
citizen. He felt it would give the City a broader base of feedback than just a normal
survey would.
Mayor Bailey stated the lady who would be working with Cottage Grove has a passion
for what she does, and they will also be attending events in the City to try to get
feedback. Council Member Olsen felt this approach was a much more organic
approach, "What do you think?" and it leaves a lot of space for feedback of many
different stripes, instead of, "If you had to choose between X, Y, and Z, what would you
pick?" He thought what they'd learned from past surveys is many people would say
they're all for a YMCA, but when asked how much they'd like to pay for it, they were
surprised to hear they'd have to pay for it. Just asking a question about a community
center, for example, and where they'd like it would gather a lot more pertinent
information. Administrator Stevens stated they could also ask, "Are you willing to work
on this?" which is an entirely different approach and challenges people. Work groups
developed based on what people felt was needed in the community; if it was something
they felt strongly about, they would be more enthused about engaging in the work.
Council Member Thiede asked if there was any guarantee from NEXT Generation of
what percentage of the community they'd actually get involved. Administrator Stevens
stated that no, there was no guarantee, but from her personal experience indicated that
they'd gotten a more diverse population involved.
4. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:54 p.m.