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COTTAGE GROVE CITY COUNCIL November 1, 2017
COUNCIL CHAMBER
12800 RAVINE PARKWAY SOUTH
SPECIAL MEETING - 6:00 P.M. - ST. CROIX CONFERENCE ROOM
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Bailey called the Special Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
The following were present: Mayor Myron Bailey, Council Member Steve Dennis,
Council Member Wayne Johnson, Council Member La Rae Mills, and Council Member
Dave Thiede.
Also present were: Charlene Stevens, City Administrator; Korine Land, City Attorney-
LeVander, Gillen & Miller, PA; Jennifer Levitt, Community Development Director/City
Engineer; Robin Roland, Finance Director; Craig Woolery, Director of Public Safety.
Deputy Director of Public Safety/Captain Greg Rinzel asked the guests to identify
themselves. Present were: Todd LaVold, with Leo A. Daly; Project Manager, Edwin
Barnard, with Leo A. Daly; Lynn, an architect with Leo A. Daly; and Brad Barickman,
with RJM Construction.
3. AGENDA ITEM
A. Workshop - Open to the Public: HERO Center Update
Staff Recommendation: Receive an update on HERO Center from
Architect Leo A. Daly. No specific action required.
City Administrator Charlene Stevens stated they'd had a bonding visit and bonding tour,
and they'd met with the Governor's staff so it's anticipated that we'd be seeking bonding
dollars for this project, 50% ask from the State, or about $9 million; other costs would be
paid by the City of Woodbury and the City of Cottage Grove.
Council Member Thiede asked if the people making decisions about State funds or
grants understood that the new training center in St. Paul isn't a replacement for the
HERO Center. Public Safety Director Craig Woolery stated St. Paul didn't ask for State
funding on that facility. Administrator Stevens stated there's a lobbyist working with
Cottage Grove and Woodbury, and her role is education of the decision makers as they
move through the legislative process.
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Lynn, the architect, showed an aerial overview of the proposed site; the orientation of
the building will be changed due to the proposed multifamily housing in that area. There
are two outdoor training areas. There will be no public visibility of the police training
area; additional trees, berms, and a perimeter fence will be installed. Lynn reviewed the
interior design layout of the building. Captain Rinzel explained that a card system would
be used to access the HERO Center, which would electronically track usage.
Next, Lynn reviewed the proposed exterior features of the building. The HERO Center
will have identifying imagery, although the materials and color selection will stay true to
the campus. EMS and Fire training will also take place here; there will be outdoor stair
towers to train for rescue of inhabitants of multilevel buildings. The pond and three
fire hydrants will allow the Fire Department the ability to use water for their engine
trucks.
Budget: Construction costs are at approximately $17.2 million; there's a 2% escalation
factor, assuming the project will bid next summer. Ground will be broken in the fall of
2018. There's a design contingency of 5%, as there are still many unknowns with
schematic design. There's a 7% construction contingency. As the design evolves,
they'll start to reel contingencies back in; typically, on a project of this size, they'll be
anywhere from 3% to 5%. If we're over budget, there's an opportunity to remove a few
items: Eliminating one of the two 50-person classrooms; Remove the training simulator,
as it could be purchased at a later date; Four-lane range shell would be built, but it
would not include the firing range mechanical systems. Regarding the 12-lane shooting
range, costs per hour charged to those people renting it will help defray and hopefully
reimburse the initial costs.
The State will pay Cottage Grove $750,000 for the land cost ($1.25 million); Woodbury
will reimburse half of that to Cottage Grove. Construction cost is $17.2 million; half of
that is $8.6 million coming from the State, and a 50/50 split for Cottage Grove and
Woodbury on the construction costs. Soft costs are about $855,000. Those include
furniture, fixtures, equipment, etc.; that's a 50/50 split between Cottage Grove and
Woodbury. Total project cost is $19.5 million, which does not include the $1.4 million
that was already granted from the State. When you split that up, it's $9.7 million from
the State and a 50/50 split, $4.8 million each, for Cottage Grove and Woodbury. With
reimbursement to Cottage Grove for the land of$1.25 million, the total costs become
$3.7 million for Cottage Grove and $4.86 million for Woodbury.
Finance Director Robin Roland had spoken to Woodbury's Finance Director about their
ability to bond for the amount due; however, State Statute says Woodbury is not able to
bond for a project that's not in their community. One consideration is Cottage Grove
would bond for the entire contribution and we would have an agreement with Woodbury
on how those bonds would be repaid. Director Roland stated previously there was a
discussion by Woodbury's City Administrator and internal staff that they would just pay
cash; that is somewhat in flux at this point. A Joint Powers Agreement (JPA) would
exist between the two Cities, and as part of the JPA, there could be a payback schedule
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with regard to Woodbury's portion of the bonds if the City of Cottage Grove would
entertain the possibility of issuing the entire debt. That entire bond debt would pretty
much eat up Cottage Grove's entire bonding availability.
Council Member Dennis asked if we extended that debt, what that would potentially due
to the City's credit rating. Director Roland stated as long as we levied to pay the debt,
we're fine. However, that precludes bonding debt for other things, road projects or
other building projects. Administrator Stevens stated Woodbury was exploring the
possibility of Cottage Grove bonding the entire cost; however, there are other
alternatives Woodbury could use. A JPA could answer the question for Woodbury.
Mayor Bailey stated we could also ask a legislative group for assistance with this issue.
Mayor Bailey stated he'd have a little bit of heartburn knowing that future project
opportunities in Cottage Grove would have to stop because we'd be carrying debt for
Woodbury.
Schedule: They're looking to finish up the design in January, 2018, and will give an
update at the Council Meeting in February, 2018. Construction documents will be
finished in April or May, 2018. The Governor's budget will come out in mid- to late-
December, 2017, and then we'll know a bit more about this project's priority. The
legislative session begins in February, 2018, and will conclude in May, 2018. Hopefully,
we'll know that we've got the money in May, so we're looking at construction bids
sometime in June through August, 2018. Once we have the money, we can begin
construction in September, 2018. Brad stated that's a great time to begin construction;
it will take approximately ten months to build; the HERO Center should be completed in
late summer, 2019.
Captain Rinzel stated with any new building, once you move in, you find little things that
need to be fixed; especially if we're going to market the HERO Center, we need to
ensure we're offering the best product available to the public. Repeat customers will be
what pays for the operation and maintenance. It would be good for Police Department
personnel to use it and have a great base of knowledge before it's open to the public.
They'll give tours for other agencies; that way, the other agencies can add in HERO
Center rental fees to their budgets, before 2020.
Mayor Bailey asked about the fence and berms around the perimeter; they stated it
would not just be a chain-link fence; they're planning for a six-foot tall decorative
aluminum fence with spikes on top and very strategically-placed plantings, trees, and
berms around it so it's not an eyesore. Captain Rinzel stated shrubs and plantings
would be inside the fence; should anyone get over the fence, it would not be conducive
to walking. It was explained that there would be layers of acoustic and visual protection
with the berms, trees, and dense foliage to mitigate any sounds. The HERO Center will
be higher than the nearby amphitheatre so that will help with sound issues.
4. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 6:52 p.m.
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Minutes prepared by Judy Graf and reviewed by Joe Fischbach, HR Manager/City
Clerk.