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FINAL AGENDA
COTTAGE GROVE CITY COUNCIL
MAY 5, 1999
Persons wishing to address the Council during fhis meeting are asked to fill out a"Speaker
Signup Form" and return the form to any Staff Member prior to the start of the meeting.
Speaker Signup Forms are located on each audience chair in the Counci! Chambers.
OPEN FORUM - 7:15 P.M.
Persons may address the City Council on subjects that are not a part of the Regular Meeting
agenda, but must limit remarks to two (2) minutes. Open forum will adjourn to the Regular
Meeting promptly at 7:30 p.m. Open Forum and a portion of the Regular Meeting are
televised LIVE, airing on Government Channel 12.
REGULAR MEETING - 7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor
� ROLL CALL — City Clerk
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
2. PRESENTATIONS
A. Proclaim May 9-15 as Preservation Week.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. April 14, 1999 Special Meeting.
4. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Accept and Place on File the Following Minutes:
*i Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission of April 12, 1999.
B. Approve final payment to Swanson Plumbing and Heating in the amount of
$15,892.42 on the Public Works Facility Expansion Project.
Staff Recommendation: Approve final payment.
C. Approve final payment to Listul Industries in the amount of $10,974.69 on the
Public Works Facility Expansion Project.
Staff Recommendation: Approve final payment.
D. Adopt resolution accepting grant from Community Youth Connection and
Community Education Advisory Council in the amount of $500 to assist in
� covering expenses for the "Spring Celebration".
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
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MAY 5, 1999 AGENDA
Cottage Grove City Council
. E. Accept resignation of Rodney Beyer from the Public Safety, Health and Welfare
Commission.
Staff Recommendation: Accept resignation.
F. Receive funding status of Year 2000 related issues.
Staff Recommendation: Receive funding status of Year 2000 related issues.
G. Appoint Barbara Taylor to the Human Services Commission for a two-year
term.
Sfaff Recommendation: Approve the appointment.
H. Appoint Rodney Beyer to the Human Services Commission for a two-year term.
Staff Recommendation: Approve the appointment.
I. Adopt resolution relating to the appeal by Roger's Auto & Truck Parts.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
J. Authorize placement of "No Parking—Resident Only During School Hours"
signs on 78th Street Court off Inskip Trail and authorize Public Works to install
the signs.
Staff Recommendation: Authorize placement and installation of "No Parking"
signs.
K. Adopt resolution approving final plat for a 15-lot residential subdivision named
Kingsborough Woods.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
L. Approve 1998 Annual Report of the Historic Preservation Program.
Staff Recommendation: Approve the Annual Report.
• M. Adopt resolution approving final plat for a 48-lot residential subdivision named
Pine Glen 7th Addition.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
N. Approve subdivision agreement with U.S. Home-Thompson Land Division for
development of a 57-lot residential subdivision named Pine Forest 5th Addition,
adopt resolution approving plans and specifications for public improvement
within Pine Forest 5th Addition, and set bid date for May 27, 1999 at 11:00 a.m.
Staff Recommendation: Approve subdivision agreement, adopt resolution and
set bid date.
O. Adopt resolution accepting donations of cash for the Great Grove Get Together
and the Cottage Grove Jaycees.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
P. Adopt resolution accepting donations of cash from Koch Petroleum Group for
the Great Grove Get Together Celebration.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
Q. Adopt resolution granting a variance to the parking lot setback requirements of
Chapter 28 of the zoning ordinance, and approving a site plan review and a
conditional use permit for construction of a KFC restaurant with drive-thu
service at 8479 East Point Douglas Road.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
R. Receive information regarding conditional use permits.
Staff Recommendation: Receive information regarding conditional use permits.
. S. Adopt Resolution ordering preparation of feasibility report for 1999/2000 Street
Rehabilitation Project.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
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MAY 5, 1999 AGENDA
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Review responses to questions raised about the completion of 80th Street.
Staff Recommendation: Review responses to questions raised about the
comp/etion of 80th Street.
Adopt resolution abating delinquent utility certified in error for taxes payable
1999.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED OPEN FORUM ISSUES
PUBLIC HEARINGS
BID AWARDS
8. UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
A. .ferry Jufkowski is requesting a letter from the City stating the City's inability to
provide sanitary sewer service to his property at 6225 — 85th Street South.
Staff Recommendation: Instruct staff to prepare a written response to Mr.
Julkowski concerning sanitary sewer service.
B. Review the draft letter to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency regarding the
EAW for the South Washington County Wastewater Treatment Plant.
Staff Recommendation: Review and modify the draft letter.
C. Adopt resolutions approving site plan review to complete interior surface
drainage improvements to the Cottage Grove Tank Farm and conditional use
permit to allow storage of crude oil, refined oil, alcohol, and other liquids by
Marathon Ashland Petroleum.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolutions.
*D Adopt resolution amending Resolution No. 79-68 granting a conditional use
permit to Cecil Martin for expansion of a nonconforming use.
Staff Recommendation: Adopt the resolution.
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RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
11. PAY BILLS
A. Approve Payment of Check Numbers 107530 to 107722 in the Amount of
$250,511.80.
12. WORKSHOP SESSIOfV — OPEN TO PUBLIC
A. Discuss Fiscal Impact Analysis of residential and park development on Lower
Grey Cloud Island.
B. Discuss HDR's initial findings from the drainage study for the Cottage Grove
Ravine Watershed.
� 3. WORKSHOP SESSION — CLOSED TO PUBLIC
ADJOURNMENT
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� REGULAR MEETING
C�TTAGE GROVE CITY CDUNCIL
May 5, 1999
OPEN FORUM - 7:15 p.m.
Open Forum provides persons an opportunity to inform the Council of a problem or to
request information related to City business that has not been scheduled for Council
action and does not appear on the Agenda. Mayor Denzer encouraged persons to limit
their remarks to two (2) minutes per issue.
Present: Mayor John Denzer
Council Member Cheryl Kohis
Council Member Pat Rice
Council Member Sandy Shiely
Council Member Jim Wolcott
Absent: None
Also present: Ryan Schroeder, City Administrator
Jerry Bourdon, City Engineer - BRAA
� Les Burshten, Public Works Director
Kim Lindquist, Community Development Director
Jim Kinsey, Public Safety Director
Bob Long, City Attorney — Kennedy & Graven
Michelle Wolfe, Assistant City Administrator
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council of the City of Cottage Grove, Washington County, Minnesota held a
regular meeting on Wednesday, May 5, 1999, at the Cottage Grove City Hall, 7516 80th
Street South. Mayor Denzer called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor John Denzer
Council Member Cheryl Kohls
Council Member Pat Rice
Council Member Sandy Shiely
Council Member Jim Wolcott
Absent: None
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Regular Meeting — May 5, 1999
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• Also present: Ryan Schroeder, City Administrator
Jerry Bourdon, City Engineer - BRAA
Les Burshten, Public Works Director
Kim Lindquist, Community Development Director
Jim Kinsey, Public Safety Director
Bob Long, City Attorney — Kennedy & Graven
Michelle Wolfe, Assistant City Administrator
Mayor Denzer presided over the meeting.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Denzer added item 13A, Pending Litigation to the agenda.
MOTION BY RICE, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO APPROVE THE FINAL AGENDA
AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED. 5-0.
PRESENTATIONS
Proclaim May 9-15, 1999 as "Preservation Week"
• On request of Mayor Denzer, Wolcott read aloud the proclamation declaring the week
of May 9-15, 1999 as "Preservation Week."
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the April 14, 1999, Special City Council meetings were accepted as
presented.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Shiely asked that items I and D be pulled. Wolcott pulled item T. Kohls pulled items L
and Q. Mayor Denzer pulled item O.
Denzer recognized the contributions that were made by the Community Youth
Connection and Community Education Advisory Council for the Spring Celebration. He
also acknowledged donations to the Cottage Grove Jaycees and the Great Grove Get
Together Celebration. He accepted the donations on behalf of the Council.
Shiely asked that item I be pulled from the Consent Calendar and voted on separately.
She did not want to vote against the entire Consent Calendar for this one item.
MOTION BY SHIELY, SECONDED BY RICE, TO PULL ITEM I FROM THE CONSENT
. CALENDAR. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0.
Regular Meeting — May 5, 1999
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. MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-
60, A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE APPEAL BY ROGER'S AUTO & TRUCK
PARTS, INC. OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF A BUILDING
PERMIT. MOTION CARRIED: 4-1 (COUNCIL MEMBER SHIELY VOTING NAY).
Robert Vogel, Historic Preservation Officer, gave an update on the Historic Preservation
Committee. Mr. Vogel stated that at the end of 1998, there were a total of 43 historic
buildings, sites, structures and districts within the city limits that have been evaluated as
significant and worthy of consideration in community development planning. Following
are some key highlights of the 1998 Annual Report:
• No significant heritage resources were lost during 1998.
• A yearlong comprehensive review of the city historic preservation program was done
and a new Comprehensive Historic Preservation Plan was produced and expected
to be adopted by the City Council in 1999.
• The City has maintained its status as a Certified Local Government and has had this
designation since 1985.
• 115 historic properties were reviewed against eligibility criteria in 1998.
• Two properties were determined to have met the criteria.
• • City was awarded a federal grant to complete an intensive survey of nine previously
recorded historic properties.
• Two historic properties were listed on in the City Register of Historic Sites: Hill-
Gibson House and the Roberts House.
• 100 Community Development projects were reviewed.
• The Committee responded to over 93 requests for information on local historic sites.
• The Cedarhurst lecture series held three new one-time courses in local history,
architecture and preservation.
• Workshop sessions were held with the Planning Commission, Public Works
Commission, and the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission.
• There were 17 public education presentations.
Shiely commented that Cottage Grove is older than Stillwater and appears on maps
from Henry David Thoreau's writings in the mid-1880's as Cottage Grove.
Denzer recognized the significant length of service by the members of the Committee.
Kohls recognized members by name and thanked them for their work.
Finally, Mr. Vogel stated that in 1999 there will be a Historic House Tour and tours for
• City Staff and high school students for the Historic Society Week and the Cedarhurst
Lecture Series in September.
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On Item Q, Kohls asked if the car stacking issue for Kentucky Fried Chicken had been
resolved. According to Lindquist, the site plan, unchanged, reflects the best
development design for this situation. Kohls also asked about the signage issues and
Lindquist responded that they were working with the applicant and felt they could be
resolved.
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE TO:
A. ACCEPT AND PLACE ON FILE THE FOLLOWING MINUTES:
PARKS, RECREATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
OF APRIL 12, 1999.
B. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-73, A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL
PAYMENT TO SWANSON PLUMBING AND HEATING IN THE AMOUNT OF
$15,892.42 ON THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY EXPANSION PROJECT.
C. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-74, A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL
PAYMENT TO LISTUL INDUSTRIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,974.69 ON THE
PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY EXPANSION PROJECT.
• D. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-61, A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING GRANT
FROM COMMUNITY YOUTH CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION
ADVISORY COUNCIL IN THE AMOUNT OF $500 TO ASSIST IN COVERING
EXPENSES FOR THE "SPRING CELEBRATION."
E. ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF RODNEY BEYER, EFFECTIVE
IMMEDIATELY, FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH, AND WELFARE
COMMISSION.
F. RECEIVE REPORT FROM FINANCE DIRECTOR ELIZABETH JOHNSON
REGARDING YEAR 2000 FUNDING ISSUES.
G. APPOINT BARBARA TAYLOR TO THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION
FOR A TERM COMMENCING MAY 5, 1999 AND ENDING FEBRUARY 28,
2001.
H. APPOINT RODNEY BEYER TO THE HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION FOR
A TERM COMMENCING MAY 5, 1999 AND ENDING FEBRUARY 28, 2001.
J. AUTHORiZE PLACEMENT OF "NO PARKING - RESIDENT ONLY DURlNG
SCHOOL HOURS" SIGNS ON 78 STREET COURT OFF INSKIP TRAIL AND
. AUTHORIZE PUBLIC WORKS TO INSTALL THE SIGNS.
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� K. ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 99-62, A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLAT
FOR A FIFTEEN-LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION NAMED KINGSBOROUGH
WOODS.
L. ACCEPT THE 1998 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
PROGRAM.
M. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-63. A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINAL PLAT
FOR A 48-LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION NAMED "PINE GLEN 7
ADDITION".
N. APPROVE SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT WITH U.S. HOME - THOMPSON
LAND DIVISION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A 57-LOT RESIDENTIAL
SUBDIVISION NAMED PINE FOREST 5 ADDITION, AND AUTHORIZE THE
MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY.
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-64, A RESOLUTION APPROVING PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN PINE FOREST 5
ADDITION, AND SET A BID DATE FOR MAY 27, 1999 AT 11:00 A.M.
• O. ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 99-65, A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DONATIONS
OF CASH FOR THE GREAT GROVE GET TOGETHER AND THE COTTAGE
GROVE JAYCEES.
P. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-66, A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DONATIONS
OF CASH FROM KOCH PETROLEUM GROUP FOR THE GREAT GROVE GET
TOGETHER CELEBRATION.
Q. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-67, A RESOLUTION GRANTING A VARIANCE
FROM THE PARKING LOT SETBACKS OF CHAPTER 28, SECTION 28-
30(b)(1) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. ALSO, APPROVING A SITE PLAN
REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR CONSTRCUTION OF A
CLASS III RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE AT 8479 EAST
POINT DOUGLAS ROAD.
R. RECEIVE REPORT FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KIM
LINDQUIST REGARDING CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
S. ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 99-68, A RESOLUTION ORDERING
PREPARATION OF FEASIBILITY REPORT FOR 1999/2000 STREET
REHABILITATION PROJECT.
T. RECEIVE REPORT FROM THE CITY ENGINEER REGARDING THE 8p
. STREET SOUTH COMPLETION SCHEDULE.
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U. ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 99-69, A RESOLUTION ABATING DELINQUENT
UTILITY CERTIFIED IN ERROR FOR TAXES PAYABLE 1999.
MOTION CARRIED: 5-0.
RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED OPEN FORUM ISSUES - None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS - None.
BID AWARDS - None.
UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
Jerry Julkowski is rec�uesting a letter from the City stating the City's inability to qrovide
sanitarx sewer service to his property at 6225 — 85 Street South.
Denzer asked the City Engineer to document their findings within the letter to Mr.
Julkowski.
MOTION BY WOLCOTT SECONDED BY KOHLS, TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE
A LETTER TO MR. JULKOWSKI, ADDRESSING THE CITY'S CONCERNS THAT HIS
• PROPOSED GRAVITY FLOW SYSTEM INTO COTTAGE GROVE'S SANITARY
SEWER IS NOT FEASIBLE BASED ON SURVEY INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM
MR. JULKOWSKI. MOTION CARRIED: 5-0.
Review Draft Letter to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency regarding the EAW for
the South Washington County Wastewater Treatment Plant.
Council reviewed the draft letter prepared by Community Development Director Kim
Lindquist, to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency regarding the EAW for the South
Washington County Wastewater Treatment Plant.
Lindquist stated two changes were proposed by Craig Christianson, project manager for
the pfant portion of the Treatment Plant expansion.
MOTION BY RICE, SECONDED BY SHIELY, TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO FORWARD
THE LETTER TO THE MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY. MOTION
CARRIED: 5-0.
Site Plan Review and Conditional Use Permit - Marathon Ashland Petroleum.
Council reviewed the applications of Marathon Ashland Petroleum for a site plan and
conditional use permit. The site plan review would enable the completion of interior
. surface drainage improvements to the Cottage Grove Tank Farm facility at 6259 85th
Street South. The conditional use permit would allow for the existing use of storage of
� crude oil, refined oil, alcohol, and other liquids in an I-3 zoning district.
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MOTION BY RICE, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-
70, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SITE PLAN FOR THE COMPLETION OF
INTERIOR SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COTTAGE GROVE
TANK FARM FACILITY AT 6249 85 STREET SOUTH. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.
99-71, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE
EXISTING USE OF STORAGE OF CRUDE OIL, REFINED OIL, ALCOHOL, AND
OTHER LIQUIDS IN THE I-3 ZONING DISTRICT AT 6249 85 STREET SOUTH.
Gary Pahr. 8956 Granada Avenue South
Mr. Pahr stated he had a concern regarding the contamination that could be going into
ground water. He also was concerned about the vandalism that he has seen on the
property. Mr. Pahr stated that since there are no fences around the tanks, he sees
people and kids lingering around them, throwing liter on the ground, dumping illegally,
poaching of deer, kids smoking pot, and so forth. By adding an open storm water
basin, he felt the problems would only increase. His other concern related to what this
will do to property values. Pahr stated he was opposed to any improvements on the
site.
Shiely responded that she felt the proposed venting system of the tanks would prevent
• any leakage. Lindquist stated that the purpose of the open pool area was for surface
water drainage. Kohls stated that the improvements were also to ensure the citizens
that leakage was contained and surrounding land was environmentally safe. Concerns
were raised about what the company planned to do regarding the vandalism, however.
Gary Glass, 6546 90 Street South
Mr. Glass asked whether the City was giving approval for the company to store crude
oil. Administrator Schroeder responded that the issue being corrected was surface
water and drainage, and that there was no change to what is being stored there today.
The conditional use permit was for the use as it currently exists.
Glass asked if they could enclose the pond area. Administrator Schroeder responded
that there may be other issues to be addressed, such as security. The issue at hand
tonight was drainage. The applicant is meeting all the requirements for a storage
facility with these improvements.
Mr. Pahr asked about children playing in the area and asked how would they be kept
away from the open ponds. He asked if there could be a fence installed. Community
Development Director Kim Lindquist stated that just south of these tanks are the City
garden plots. Marathon Ashland Petroleum is talking about adding a security gate to
regulate access to the site.
. Public Works Director Les Burshten stated that the garden plots that were above the
pipes coming from the tanks have been removed.
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� Mayor Denzer also shared a concern regarding the accessibility of the area to the
public.
Herbie Olson, representing Marathon Ashland Petroleum, addressed the public and the
Council. He stated that there would be a fence, which he believed would be nine-feet
tall. Mr. Olson explained upgrades are required by the Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency. He stated that what they are doing will improve the soil and land in the area of
the tanks. There are valves on the tanks that will be closed to prevent leakage and
spill. The level of contamination will be measured before opening them to drain. Each
tank has its own containment area around it. Mr. Olson stated they have worked with
the City in plotting out the City garden plots to ensure there is no conflict with the
surface water pipe. The soils will continue to be tested for any contaminants.
Mr. Olson addressed the security issues and the gates and what Marathon was
proposing to do. He stated that the gardens would have controlled access.
Schroeder reiterated that the storm water pond was no different than any other in the
City. He also stated that every manufacturing facility has contaminants to deal with, so
this was not any different. He commented that actually, the process is more protected.
The pool adds greater protection than is there currently to the City.
• Mr. Pahr asked why this plan came out labeled as "natura! wetlands" and now it is a
storm water pond. Lindquist stated that a portion of the pond is labeled as seasonal
wetlands on Exhibit B.
UPON VOTE BEING TAKEN, MOTION CARRIED. 5-0.
Conditional Use Permit — Cecil Martin
MOTION BY KOHLS, SECONDED BY WOLCOTT, TO ADOPT RESOLUT/ON NO. 99-
72, A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 79-68, A RESOLUTION
GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CECIL MARTIN FOR EXPANSION OF
A NON-CONFORMING USE ON PROPERTY COMMONLY DESCRIBED AS THE 7.5
ACRE TRACT NORTH OF A& F AUTO, 10876 IDEAL AVENUE SOUTH. MOTION
CARRIED. 4-1 (VOTING NAY: SHIELY).
RESPONSE TO PREVIOUSLY RAISED COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS —
None.
COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS — None.
PAY BILLS
. MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO APPROVE PAYMENT OF
CHECK NUMBERS 107530 TO 107722 IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,511.80. MOTION
CARRIED. 5-0.
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The Council temporarily adjourned the regular meeting at 8:25 p.m., for a workshop
session, open to the public.
WORKSHOP SESSION
Discuss Fiscal Impact Anal�sis of Residential and Park Development on Lower Grev
Cloud Island.
Council reviewed the summary of results from Tischler & Associates, Inc., on the Grey
Cloud Island Fiscal Analysis.
Staff was seeking comments and direction from the Council regarding the analysis done
for deve�opment on Lower Grey Cloud Island.
Rice asked if either of the residential development scenarios used individual systems
instead of a sewer system, how much could the island handle for septic systems.
Lindquist responded that she did not know the answer. However, she would get this
information from the Metropolitan Council.
Lindquist stated that option C was developed to prompt pipe or sewer system
• installation which allowed them to develop the cost factors and impact. Kohls also
asked how many private systems could be set up. Again, that information has been
requested of the Metropolitan Council.
Shiely needed a"handle" on the potential economic impact (of a park) on the City of
Cottage Grove. The response was that there was no direct impact to the City General
Fund and, thus, was not included in the fiscal analysis. She asked if there was any way
of assessing that cost from the experience in other municipalities. Schroeder stated
that the DNR has some numbers and those were looked at, but they reflect rural parks,
not metro ones. Shiely asked about Fort Snelling and whether an impact could be
gathered from this area.
Lindquist stated the information received from the DNR showed that the "day-trip
visitors" accounted for the majority of the park visitors and had a greater impact on the
economy than the campers.
Schroeder said he would work with the DNR to try to get better numbers and economic
impacts on the local city.
It was noted the denser option with 300 homes had a negative impact on the park
option. The DNR stated in March that they would not be interested in the undeveloped
area for a park.
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� Vogel stated there are minimum sizes to State Park grounds. The rules governing them
are pretty specific to size, etc. He confirmed what Lindquist stated regarding "day-trip
visitors."
Wolcott had questions regarding maintenance of State Parks. He had a concern
regarding the infrastructure in State Parks and wondered what the State was willing to
pay/contribute to the maintenance and upkeep.
It was discussed that the "park only" plan does not come out ahead economically.
Wolcott felt the combination Park and development (homes} was the best option since
they compliment each other and help cover the City's costs. Concern was that "we
don't own the park and don't have control over it." Public money would still be needed
to purchase the land.
Kohls had a series of questions:
1. Where did the numbers on page 18, item E come from? There appears to be a
discrepancy compared to the input numbers. Lindquist will check this out.
2. Where is the City with the DNR regarding their potential contribution to road
infrastructure costs? Administrator Schroeder stated that at this point, discussions
� have stopped until all the information is gathered and direction is given.
3. The study assumes the DNR pays for part of the roads. Kohls stated she wanted to
know which roads. Lindquist pointed out that on page 18, the road segments are
listed.
4. Kohls asked if there were houses put in, how would the road upgrading be paid.
Lindquist responded that some money would come from MSA, the General Fund
and other sources. All the plans treat the roads as needed and the numbers are
reflected in them.
5. Kohls asked how the traffic trips were arrived at? Lindquist explained how the City
calcuiated the peak daily trips versus the DNR using an average daily trip figure.
Vogel stated that the State's intent is to increase the number of inetro parks, but there
are very few locations with enough land. He suggested looking at Federaf Parks, many
of which are in metro locations, to garner some additional information about economic
impacts.
Rice asked about the impact on the Police and Fire Department and if this could add
costs to the City's budget. He believes that it would be more than the 25 calls per year
used in the Study.
Additional questions were asked on both sides—Council and Staff. Lindquist stated
. she sees the narrative changing with the input given by the Council members tonight
and with input from the partnering agencies.
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Discuss HDR's initial findings from the drainage study,for Cottaqe Grove Ravine
Watershed.
Wolcott asked staff where the authority was to study a County Park. Rice stated that
previously, the County had stated that the Ravine Park was off limits for surface water
drainage. Tony Luft, HDR explained the study design parameters: no infiltration and
full-residential development at urban densities
Rice asked about the water quality. Tony Luft of HDR indicated that in RL1 and RL2,
the ponds control the water quality leve{s. The ten year sediment capacity is designed
on the 100 year system and spring melt event.
Schroeder suggested this document should "sit" until they see what the Watershed
District would do. Kohls asked for broad numbers to give to the citizens. She stated
that this document could be used as bargaining with the Watershed District for cost
sharing plans.
The Council directed Staff not to authorize additional work to HDR.
WORKSHOP SESSION - CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
• MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY SHIELY, TO CLOSE THE MEETING AT
10:30 P.M. MOTION CARRIED. 5-0.
Those in attendance were Mayor John Denzer, Council Members Jim Wolcott, Cheryl
Kohls, Pat Rice, and Sandy Shiely, City Administrator Ryan Schroeder, City Attorney
Bob Long, and Assistant City Administrator Michelle Wolfe.
Pursuant to the open meeting law, the City Council met in closed session to discuss
potential {egal litigation relative to a personnel nature.
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY KOHLS, TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED
SESSION AND RECONVENE THE REGULAR MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION BY WOLCOTT, SECONDED BY RICE, TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR
MEETING AT 10:55 P.M. MOTION CARRIED. 5-0.
Respectfully submitted,
• Deb Hawkinson
Recording Secretary
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